Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowStakesConspiracies/comments/1xf8tv9/jk_rowling_making_harry_potter_say_voldemort/

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People can be bigoted about one thing without being bigoted about everything.

Kingsley Shacklebolt

Cho Chang.

Is a perfectly normal name

It's a Korean surname combined with a Chinese surname. You could argue Chang is perfectly acceptable but then use an actual Chinese first name. Or have Cho and then a Korean first name. Or, shocking take. Have a Western first name because the character is British and might well. Jane Chang makes more sense than Cho Chang for anyone who did more than 30 seconds of research.

Cho Chang is a Chinese name, likely of Hong Kong origin.

And that's a lovely story. There are about 104 TOTAL incidences of Cho as a first name in Hong Kong. It's overwhelmingly a romanization of a surname, not a first name.

Yeah but her stereotyping of the banking elves to look like Nazi caricatures of Jews is telling.

It’s funny how much you tell on yourselves for making this comparison.

Are you just learning about the existence of racist stereotypes?

They're pointing out that you don't even know what they are, so you are uneducated on the subject. They aren't elves. She also used depictions of goblins that were 500 yrs old. You saw short things with gold and thought "oh, they look Jewish." How are you not the racist here?

I got the name of a fantasy creature wrong. The stereotype remains. How am I racist here? Go on, explain

Yes, you are uneducated on the matter as I established. I just explained it. You're determined to compare a small ugly creature with gold to a jewish person, that's why. You didn't even know what they were or the origin of the folklore, but your mind jumped to "jewish person."

“Established” lol no. So you’re just going to dismiss the whole stereotype? Guess you’d also dismiss a swastika being used because of the link to Sanskrit/hindu origins. Just because there is historical context of Goblins existing prior (typically not as bankers) , whereas the Nazi stereotype was clear - it doesn’t mean the stereotype doesn’t exist in modern society. (18 more comments of these two arguing)

The people at the banks are goblins, and they look like goblins. She’s probably a racist, but the Nazi caricatures were intentionally depicting Jews like goblins, and those guys are actually goblins, so it’s not a surprise that they share traits.

Right. It's just a coincidence she made them bankers.

I mean I literally hate to defend her in anyway, I think shes an evil human being, but goblins in fantasy are traditionally very money hungry creatures. Its the same in the Warcraft Universe, DnD, magic the gathering, even the movie Labyrinth from the 80s. I wouldn't be surprised if she's racist, but I dont really need more reasons to despise her than I already have

Right. She had no choice but to use goblins. There was a literal gun to her head. I agree with you.

What? Are people not allowed to use a fictional race in their fictional story? Is that what you're saying lol

No I'm saying when a racist writes a story, she's going to use racial stereotypes in her racist stories. If you and I wrote a story about a greedy goblin, and we don't (assumedly) have a history of antisemitism or racism or bigotry of any kind... No one is gonna go "Hey MrJackGuy & RealNiceKnife, what the fuck is with the greedy goblin?" Some might, but you'd say that thing about goblins and fantasy and people would be like "Yeah, duh, makes sense..." But if lets say Richard Spencer wrote a story about a greedy goblin, people might be like "Hey, is this an allegory for something? It sure seems like it and your history of being a white supremacist definitely raises a few questions."

Racial stereotypes like very long fingers, slender arms, pointy ears and sharp teeth? That's how goblins are described in the books.

Harry potter, as a booknseries, had a strong pro-tolerance and anti-prejudice message. The fact that Rowling has turned into a raging transphobe doesn't change that.

It had a strong pro-tolerance and anti-prejudice message that was muddied/tainted by the very obvious unquestioned bigotries that were also always there in the text. Rowling's particularly rabid hatred of trans women wasn't there yet, but let's not oversimplify things.

Harry Potter is just such a surface level whimsy reading. House elves are an old part of folk-lore, which is why they were included. Rowling then got butt hurt when people took it as serious slavery instead of whimsy magic elves from all the folk tales. That's all there is to it.

The house elves were far from the only issue lol

What would you say are the biggest issues?

Biggest in terms of most obviously egregious? The goblins as anti semitic caricature. The characaterization of SPEW was also pretty bad. Biggest as in present throughout much of the book? The misogyny, racism, and just plain old weirdness about non-normative bodies. All of these were at "normal" levels for the mainstream at the time, but normal =/= good. These were all far more lowkey than the goblins, but also far more pervasive. Biggest as in most closely tied to the central narrative? The failure to really grapple with the fact that the societal structures that produced voldemort and allowed him to gain power were all still in place, making the rise of another genocidal maniac all but inevitable. But Harry's a cop now so we're supposed to think it's all okay. Again, very "normal" but also incompatible with the characterization as "staunchly progressive"

I wish I had as little problems in life as you to look so deeply into a kids story to try and find hidden things to be offended at as you

New character Ebony Nword incoming. Edit: I got a redit warning for this comment

You deserve the warning because people use these Rowling threads as an excuse to post their own racist tropes

That's shitty of them, but I assure you, my comment is 100% making fun of Rowling's offensive naming conventions.

Your lack of self-awareness is scary

Joanne doesn’t hate black people. Unless they’re trans.

The only black character in the franchise has the last name Shacklebolt, she’s racist, and if she could put the hard R in her books, she would’ve

UK doesn't have a slavery fascination. He is a wizard cop. He puts people in shackles. His first name is King, he becomes minster for magic. People are desperate to outraged.

King? Like Martin Luther? Jesus Christ lmfao

That's far to US centric for a British children's book. He is barely mentioned in UK schools. At least back in the 90's/00's.

I think God gave you too much grace before sending you over here. The last name is Shacklebolt for crying out loud, you might say that’s a little US centric lol. Do not watch the new Elizabeth Holmes documentary, she will win you over.

What are you one about?

What are you on about?

Mature...

I do not like jk Rowling but oh my god you people are exhausting. Just look at the shit she is actively doing instead of looking for subtext that isn't there

I dont even like Harry potter but now the anti Harry potter people are becoming more annoying than the Harry potter fan

It's exhausting to read. I saw r/crafts banned harry potter anything recently. Any thread with ANYTHING harry potter related just brings these people out. It's pathetic virtue signalling. People just want to look clever and be woke for karma

Rowling is actively influencing uk policy to remove the civil rights of trans people, grow up and realise people are actually in danger because of her

No she isn't.

https://www.advocate.com/news/jk-rowling-anti-trans-organization

"The J.K. Rowling Women's Fund (JKRWF) offers legal funding support to individuals and organisations fighting to retain women's sex-based rights in the workplace, in public life, and in protected female spaces." It's a feminist legal fund for women's rights.

Yeah and the Nazis were socialists. A version of feminism that doesn't include trans women isn't real feminists and TERFs are just conservatives using feminism as a disguise.

Back then people knew they were female or male and if you liked to cross dress people just assumed it was your thing and was harmless. So doubtful.

Trans people have literally always existed, try again, moron.

Yeah thats what I just said. But no one was trying to change the meaning of biological sex then.

biological sex has always been a loose category, biology is not all that consistant. sex is primarily defined by hormones and genitals, which a transgender person can change. chromosomes and whatever other factors people cite are not particulary accurate at denoting sex, even in people who fit the binary. still, before humanity had medical transition, a plethora of cultures accepted transgender people as being more than their birth sex. indiginous populations all across the globe had words for these people, and different roles in society. transgender people are also biologically predisposed to identifying a certain way, regardless of societal structure. the way the brain interprets the body in transgender individuals is different to cisgender peoples, and certain hormone recepters are more likely to be missing or overactive.

Yeah that’s just fantasy. Biological sex has never been a ‘loose category’ lmao It’s worked for hundreds of thousands of years.

This just isn’t true. Intersex people have always existed (ie some proportion of people you perceive as ‘men’ don’t have XY chromosomes and/or typical male genitalia, and some proportion of people you perceive as ‘women’ don’t have XX chromosomes and/or typical female genitalia) - and many cultures throughout history have had accepted ways of integrating people who didn’t fit into a binary gender classification.

Title says all. How on earth did this replace door to door trick or treating? Literally the whole time my kids getting stepped on by the family behind us trying to get through the trunk or treat for the free hot dogs at the end, and we spent more time waiting in line than we did actually doing the trunk or treating.

Back in my day you’d go out for 2-3 hours with pillow cases and come back with damn near a tote full of candy while being a hooligan through the neighborhood. Great times were had. Your parents would decorate and you’d help to get your house as spooky scary as possible. I cannot communicate the joy all of that would bring me. And it’s been mostly replaced in my area by this absolutely horrid trunk or treating. I hated it before I ever tried the trunk or treating and now I’m just viscerally pissed off something so awful could replace something so key to my childhood.

Anyway, rant over. Fuck whoever thought up trunk or treating, I hope the depths of hell burn you for eternity for depriving so many kids the opportunity of being miscreants and getting candy the old fashioned way.

Posters point reasons for trunk or treat due to rural areas (houses are spread out, kids with disabilities and special needs etc)

We live in an area where there IS NO neighborhood to go trick or treating. Neighbors are far apart, driveways long, roads dark and wooded and frequented by inattentive drivers, etc.

It's a great alternative for those of us in this situation. Don't have a need or want to do it in your neck of the woods? All good; no one's forcing you to go to one.

I'm more impressed that so many grown adults (not just here; I frequently see it elsewhere) get so bent out of shape about the idea or somehow can't fathom that others don't necessarily have the same trick-or-treating situation at their disposal.

Then again, given the world today, maybe I shouldn't be.

Edit: yay, downvotes for giving kids more opportunities to enjoy being a kid

I don’t get how people can’t understand that some others have different circumstances than themselves. Maybe there isn’t a neighborhood to trick or treat or maybe the area isn’t safe? Or maybe this exists and trick or treating exists.

there are some communities that have 0 walkable roads, no sidewalks, no real neighborhoods to speak of. the kids would need walk 55mph roads that literally everyone speeds on where the houses are 100+ yards apart minimum and 0 streetlights as well as deep woods and ditches filling in every inch of other space

even "back in the day" no one was stupid enough to try trick or treating there.

theres a township north of me that literally has nowhere to trick or treat.

so i think it does have some value.

but if you live in a typical dense suburban neighborhood and opt to go trunk or treating; youre lame as hell.

also, as im thinking, its probably nice for kids with disabilities or special needs.

It's not 1990 anymore dads. We can't be the "back in my day" crew. If you kids like it who cares? Halloween and holidays don't have to be harder just because they were when we were younger. Let the kids have fun and relax.

And if you want to "fuck whoever thought up trunk or treating" it was initially created for kids who don't have neighborhoods to walk around in. Kids who maybe don't have a safe neighborhood or an adult to go out with them. And for kids who just frankly can't walk that long due to disabilities or other issues. Don't they deserve to do Halloween too?

Other replies about driving to other neighborhoods and reply about it might be no doable due to parking and HOA issues

No usually drove to neighborhoods and acted like they lived there.

If you’re driving to a parking lot couldn’t you just drive your kids to a neighbourhood to do regular trick or treating?

Where are you parking in that neighborhood? Might be an HOA issue or it might be tight on parking spaces.

Other replies

OP is probably a millennial who needs to have something about the younger generations to complain about. As a millennial, it's disheartening to see so many people my age fall into the same traps that boomers and Gen Xers did when it comes to wanting to blame everything bad on the younger generations.

Like many have said, it's an auxiliary event. My kid has had a church trunk or treat, a safe trick or treat (we go to my old hometown where the businesses hand out candy on main street) so he gets the Halloween experience with my dad) and he still has a traditional Halloween night going up to the doors at night.

This gen is starting to get that "back in my day" boomer energy.

Dude I'm with you but I can't believe you seriously hit us with the "back in my day"

https://www.reddit.com/r/daddit/comments/1xfh49i/trunk_or_treating_sucks/

A redditor who might be a little notorious creates a post showing the costs of modern living, at least for him. The post itself has some insulting words, and OP gets defensive in the comments.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Salary/comments/1xfaw80/85000_is_the_bare_minimum_salary_needed_to_be_a/

Assumptions:

1. NOTHING saved or put away for future home ownership
2. VERY conservative on the cost of being in a relationship, I know guys spending that much on a single date night, not for the whole month
3. No hobbies listed (a lot of you guys have extremely cheap hobbies like “play video games”, real human beings often have more outdoor type hobbies that actually cost money)

I put all the percentages for each category on the right side of the chart since inevitably someone will come in and nitpick one of the line items (“bro, you’re spending THAT much on a haircut?! I can ignore everything else you’re saying, bro!”) but with the percents there we can see they’re nitpicking at like 0.2% of the monthly budget. Most on here are numerically illiterate and don’t actually understand what it costs to live a middle class lifestyle.

Feel free to explain what you disagree with on this chart or which item you don’t consider necessary for living a middle class lifestyle.

Instantly knew who posted this

Relationships too much

Which part?

The cost of getting into gaming is actually expensive nowadays, I kind of agree, but there’s also a lot of high quality free to play games relative to ~20 years ago.

I’m angry because you can’t read and are saying things that I’ve covered if you’d actually just read?

Full comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/1xelcuf/your_tokens_arent_valuable_no_more_ai/

Over the past year, many programming-oriented subreddits such as /r/programming and /r/rust have banned AI-generated code due to the deluge of low-effort projects being submitted to the subreddit; in those cases the community was accepting there wasn't much drama.

Yesterday, a mod for /r/opensource posted their ban, which has a few more restrictions than typical AI bans that would ban a significant amount of non-AI-slop content:

• Projects advertised here must be all of: 1 year old (not just age, but actively maintained), have multiple contributors (subjectively 3+), not be a common capstone project (school projects, such as note-taking, PDF viewers, cli music players, etc), not be intended for AI (such as MCPs), and have an existing community.
• Though not "new", 1 year account age minimum, with significant Reddit contributions.
• If you don't speak English, you need to find a different community. We cannot distinguish between AI-written and AI-translated. Since you don't speak English, you can't even verify yourself if it translated correctly.

The post is currently at 0 upvotes.

I guess Linux is no longer allowed here? Linus uses AI for kernel development now.

Cool, cool. So my project/package I've actively maintained for nine years, has 300+ stars on github, resolved dozens of issues for, and uses exactly zero AI is no longer welcome here because I am the only contributor?

Nothing about "native" speakers. We welcome everyone that can speak English sufficiently to communicate without an AI translating for them.

Did you use AI to generate these rules?

Or maybe you acknowledge that "open models" are not really a thing, thus you don't actually have the freedoms to call it FLOSS anymore.

Original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/the_imperial_need_for_control_is_so_desperate/?sort=top

Guys, some of you really are so campist, that you prefer Ukraine (a democratic nation) gets conquered by the last fascist empire in Europe, just because Ukraine is supported by USA/NATO, or wants to join NATO (which is their right to do).

You hate western liberal democracy so much, that you are willing to support Putin and his imperialism. Think about that for a minute.

Holy liberal

Dios mio!

makes a cross

A LIBERAL.

Yeah, the one setting the world ablaze and killing millions in the name of nonsense. Ukrainian democracy is kidnapping children to send them to die in a pointless war, ukrainian democracy has been attacking the rights of ukrainian workers and their property since 1992.

Workers have no country and Russia isn't fascist, you're fighting against ukrainian workers and workers all around the west by supporting Ukraine. Our imperialist are not our friends, the same people sending guns and ammo to Ukraine are the one attacking our social nets, workers rights and the friends of the richest person.

A liberal is definetly something not good to be, you ignore all of that to support your own imperialism that allows people to vote for their crook and send mining corporation with pride flags to rape africa instead of the evil Russian empire that has state appointed crooks and mining corporation raping africa with russian flags.

If only a cross was effective against such evil.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rkipbgmd9hh?context=3

It's funny in an Andor sub that people can't figure out who's fighting on behalf of the actual empire.

What's funnier is I dont know if you are talking about Russia or the USA after debating with tankies for 12 hours.

Ukraine is a "Geopolitical Pivot state" for the United States. Basically a military colony designed specifically to undermine the US's peer adversaries. Other pivots include Israel, Taiwan, and South Korea

What is Russia then?

I already said what Russia is. It is a peer adversary to the United States. A regional power that the United States set out to balkanize and colonize 20+ years ago ( Russia is the most resource rich country on the planet).

To accomplish this, the USA started pushing NATO eastward (NATO is specifically an Anti-Russia alliance). Integrating Ukraine into NATO was Russia's red like, as that would put most major Russian cities within bombing distance.

The current conflict started in early 2014, when the neutral government of Ukraine was undemocratically couped by the pro-west military, beginning the transformation of Ukraine into a military colony of the United States.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19rjd0e3ymvk5?context=4

The "rebel" aligned with the most powerful imperialist bloc in world history who has his army kidnapping people at gunpoint, has banned opposition, and never misses a chance to support Israel

Follow https://kyivindependent.com/

They do incredible journalism, some of it very critical of Ukraines government.

But avoid whatever sources you are following now. If you think Ukraine is oppressive, you don't know a thing about Russias war crimes.

"Kyiv independent" and "awesome journalism"

YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. Everything about this org is western backed and full of neoliberal ideology.

https://www.reddit.com/r/andor/comments/1xcw51v/comment/19ri7cp212ssk?context=2

I’ve been excited about the iPhone Duo release since it was announced. Foldables seem interesting but I didn’t want to make the jump away from Apple.

Leading up to the release, [r/iPhoneDuo](r/iPhoneDuo) was filled with anticipation. There weren’t many photos and videos of the duo so people were analyzing every image they could to try to get a sense of how the new Apple foldable will be. People were even 3D printing units based on the advertised dimensions to get a feel for how it will be in real life:

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/96V5Q1te1o

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/2OrfNwu7NA

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/RcgAqvF6qW

Now the $2k phone is released, and there have been reports of the inner screen cracking in some units, all in the same spot starting on the hinge:

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/wZCK1sONpa

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/iCPb8YQive

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneDuo/s/gZv9k1M5uz

The subreddit is imploding with people cancelling their orders, some defending Apple and blaming the cracked screens on the users, and even some conspiracy theories that Samsung is putting out the narrative of the iPhone Duo cracked screens to stifle competition from Apple in the foldable space. Some are pointing out a visible bump along the hinge in the same spot where the cracks are happening, which could be a manufacturer defect in some batches. People have also identified a hinge component that may be pinching the screen.

New memes have emerged and sides are being formed. The mod has also created a Crack Gate Megathread and begun deleting posts of the cracked screens, intensifying the drama.

Full Comments - If pornography is harmful for kids why do some adults watch it?

Thought about this in a moment of post-nut clarity. Sexuals will sometimes respond with "because kids brains are still developing" but isn't that admitting that pornography is inherently harmful?

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pornography is harmful to everyone. consumers and creators. i don’t know how i ended up on this sub, im not anti sex, but i am die-hard anti porn. on a personal level, i think it’s gross and unsettling and on a social level i think it’s dangerous and unhealthy and mostly dishonest.

i could go on about this for decades, but if you want to deep dive this topic go search up some rad-fem anti-porn posts

I don't like feminists.

EDIT: The person who responded to me blocked me; I cannot reply to them.

Why not? Because feminists don’t want you to be a total piece of shit?

Nope because misandrists and misogynists are just two sides of the same coin at the end of the day.

Feminism was originally about gender equality.

The same way the Nazi party was originally about uplifting the working class before it turned into one of the worst political parties of the 20th century.

Jesus Christ did you compare feminists to nazis?

Um what

They're usually misandrists. If you're opposed to misogyny you should also be opposed to misandry, thus you should be opposed to feminism, or mainstream feminism at least.

Feminism is about equality. Just because some people are identifying as feminists and do that doesn’t mean they’re an actual feminist

The Nazis were originally about uplifting the working class until they weren't.

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No. You would not show a child an emergency brain surgery after an accident. Not because it is 'inherently harmful' but because that child doesn't have the experience or knowledge to compartmentalize that experience in the context it needs to be in. It is a traumatic experience and without preparation or warning, can have lasting impact on mental health.

Porn is not inherently harmful to people with healthy understandings and relationships with sex. It can be used to explore new ideas, get perspective on their identity, and be pleasurable for those who simply enjoy it. Children can not consent to sex, do not have the experience to add context, and have yet to learn that most sex is nothing like porn. Porn is for adults who can comfortably walk away from it.

Even for adults, sexuality can easily flip to traumatic under certain conditions. If sexuality was as good as sexuals claim it to be, this wouldn't be a problem, or at least not as widespread.

Not true. Water is great but people drown every day. Fire is horrible but people make dinner with it daily. The circumstances and context is what allow things to be more than "good" or "bad".

Sexuality/porn has pros and cons. If you personally feel there's more cons then pros, that's ok. But to say it is "inherently harmful" is objectively wrong.

Those certain conditions are not at all uncommon. While it is (probably) possible to have sexual encounters and have no resulting trauma, this is often not the case. Many people (both men and women alike although symptoms often express themselves differently) become addicted whether they realize it or not to pornography, masturbation and/or (less commonly) sex itself; a percentage of this population may descend into depravity in an attempt to get the same 'high' when they first started. Then there's other issues like unwanted pregnancies that often result in murder, etc.

When I was talking about sexuality easily flipping to traumatic, I was also talking about how fragile it is in the sense that one wrong move can be enough to psychologically traumatize one or even all of the participants.

Actually, this is most often the case. The vast majority of sex is consensual and pleasurable. While some have traumatic experiences, there are probably a thousand people having a regular, enjoyable, sexual encounter within 10km of you right now.

Your point is specific, personal, and individual. It does not apply to the general populace and pro-sex people are acutely aware of your concerns. They are the ones who put in the most precautions and assistance to address these experiences when they occur because it is not the norm.

The same way you questioned my assertion that a considerable percentage of sexual encounters are traumatic, how do we know that most sexual encounters are positive (assuming sexual encounters can be positive outside of procreation)? I mean, many people who go through traumatic experiences don't even realize it and many of those who do don't report it so I'm hesitant to trust statistics.

Because the vast majority of people are not rapists or predators. Even those who experience sexual trauma go on to live fulfilling lives with sexual partners.

You can go in hypothetical and rhetoric circles all day but reality has been constant.

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The idea is that the brain isn’t fully formed, and the emotional maturity isn’t there. I’m not exactly how true that is. It seems it is reserved for adults based on the idea that we are in control of our actions.

What are your views on the subject?

I’m 50, I have watched porn since I was a teen. Still do. I have been married over 25 years to a woman I met the year graduates and dated for years. I don’t think I’ve suffered any I’ll effects. Other arguments for or against porn not withstanding.

Then you don't belong on this sub. you aren't welcome here so fuck off

You say fuck a lot.

They're probably either a femcel with anger or a trauma victim. Hard to tell sometimes. In any case, they don't represent antisexual ideology.

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Pornography is not great. It doesn't depict realistic sex, and is exploitative to the people who work in the industry.

But I have a hard time with the idea that just because something is not meant for kids, that it automatically makes it harmful. Kids shouldn't drive cars - does that mean that we ban cars? Kids shouldn't operate heavy construction equipment - does this mean that we should stop building buildings? Kids shouldn't have to work a job - does that mean that nobody should work a job?

Maybe it was just the way you phrased your post, but it came off in that manner. If that wasn't your intention, then I apologize.

Based on your username, I'm guessing you're the person tieuruss was talking about?

I'm just saying that if sex is such a good thing according to sexuals, how can it so easily be flipped to something traumatic?

"Water is great but I almost drowned. Now that I'm traumatized, water is horrible and everyone should only drink, bathe, and swim in soda."

If you can argue this statement, you can argue your own.

Meaning?

Obviously most things can be traumatic, what matters is what the thing is, what it represents, its potential negative consequences and how often those consequences occur.

It means that this statement:

Obviously most things can be traumatic, what matters is what the thing is, what it represents, its potential negative consequences and how often those consequences occur.

Also applies to sex and porn.

The thing I am referring to in this context is recreational sexuality. As I (and others on this subreddit) have discussed, recreational sexuality is generally a bad thing to be avoided.

Bad for who?

People with an unhealthy relationship with sex and their mental health? Yeah, definitely. Sex is no joke.

For people who are comfortable with their livelihood and sexuality who are seeking pleasure without the life changing (potentially fatal) process of childbirth? No. Speak for yourself.

You're welcome to go through this subreddit and read the posts. Some people have put forward more sophisticated points than I have.

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Because kids brains are still developing and so will get a warped sense of sex and sexuality, but adults who are already mature are able to separate media from reality

Doesn't that imply sexuality is inherently harmful? How can something so good be easily flipped as traumatic?

Wow you’re making so many assumptions.

I never said sexuality, I said pornography, there is a big difference. Pornography is a form of media showcasing a scripted and capitalised and artificial form of sex and sexuality not based in reality. If that’s kids only exposure to what sex and sexuality is then they’re going to have a severely flawed and distorted view of what it is.

Neither did I say that it would traumatise kids, I said that they are too immature and too unfamiliar and so it would create a distorted and wrong view of reality. Adults however are mature enough and so should be able to tell the difference and can safely watch pornography without their world view being distorted.

I'm using pornography as an example. The same can be applied to other forms of recreational sexuality.

Why would pornography cause a distorted view in the first place?

Because the pornography industry is made to keep people engaged and to make money, not to show people having real sex. They distort reality to get people as hooked and engaged as possible

Because many coomers are eventually desensitized to vanilla sexuality, they often descent into depravity; while rare, some may find themselves in prison.

Sexuality should only be utilized in a reproductive context.

Post loss of FC Barcelona in the El Clasico against Real Madrid, the subreddit was oddly silent, until members figured out mods were removing any post slandering Barca, despite being a circlejerk sub.

Context:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xftq5x/leaving_the_sub_well_now_mods_got_problem_with/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xfv1q8/mods_when_you_slander_barca_in_a_slander_sub/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xffvv9/the_duality_of_this_sub_is_insame/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xfsmhu/moderator_when_we_talk_badly_about_bar%C3%A7a/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xfrlhi/mods_will_not_announce_who_they_support_but_there/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xfsifa/wow_mods/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xg0rb7/subs_gone/

Mod team response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1xfv61a/surge_in_complaints_of_mods_removing_jerks/

User made a post three days ago about making conversation with a single mom in the elevator.

​​​Highlight​ of the interaction:

​I didn't really know what to say so I just blurted out "nice elevator we are in huh?" She just stared at me and smiled a little bit but didn't say anything back.

Two days ​ago, he made this post, where he seemed acutely aware of her schedule, mentioning when she leaves the building to pick up her kid and so forth.

18 hours ago as of now, ​he made this post​, where he called himself a rake. According to him, a rake is someone

driven by an insatiable, seemingly uncontrollable desire for the target, and that desire is itself the lure. He pursues relentlessly, uses flattering and impassioned language, and makes the target feel more wanted than ever before.

He appears concerned about the single mother's whereabouts and expressed his desire to hold the door open for her, something he seems to take pride in doing. He woke up early to wave at her, and wished they could have a proper conversation. He wants to do things for her, and thinks offering to pick up her child might be a start.

Commentor call him out in the comments:

>​​​" Maybe I can offer to pick her kid up from school" this has to be ragebait. Nobody could possibly think that is a good idea.

>>[OP]I am trustworthy

>>>Neither can you prove this nor will she believe you. Do you not realize that a stranger asking to pick up someone's child sounds like a predator???

>>>>[OP]I will have a conversation first. Everyone assumes the worst of me.

>>>>>You can either listen to everyone telling you it's creepy, or you can do your weird creepcel thing and scare off another woman.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/countwithchickenlady/s/dgtjtKfm3K in a post about OP not wanting their dad to vote for the French far-right candidate commentators argue about whether NATO and Russia are imperialist.

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... (and which, I think, most trans people in the US would support) - they are only controversial cuz they're "too far left" even to European standards (they're against NATO imperialism and for France to be neutral like Ireland or Swizerland ...

Lmao Nato Imperialism ok putin

Smartest liberal

Imperialism is when you dont want your family murdered by russian troops

Imperialism is by definition, when financial monopolies get ahold of the state,and thus dictate war and foreign policy, to find new markets (which is what). So not to mention the decades long NATO imperialism (in Latin America, Africa and Asia - basically all of the Global South: Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Brasil, Chile, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Congo, Algeria, Libya, the Middle East, etc...), NATO is doing imperialism THAT LITERALLY HURTS UKRAINIANS THEMSELVES (it's indebting Ukraine until it will become a little war-colony, just like Japan, Taiwan or South Korea). Russia, at best, is expansionist, but not imperialist, since it definitionally doesn't have the financial base. So what I see? Two corrupt capitalist nations fighting each other for nationalism's sake, whilst military industrial complex profiteers are buying another yacht. This isn't being pro-Russia, in fact it's literally anti-Russia AND anti-NATO.

Edit: Fixed formatting and added missing comments

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1xd6e2z/h3_podcast_official_instagram_shares_their/

Context: h3h3production is a youtuber turned conservative podcaster from the early days of youtube, whose gotten into many spats with other creators, most famously Hasan Piker and Idubbz

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I think it's a bit. This makes me think it's more of a bit. It's absolutely possibly I'm wrong and I'm incredibly uninvested.

It’s clearly very real.

Ok. I don't care either way, it just seems like a bit to me. Maybe I'm too involved in online irony culture.

I don’t get how it seems like a bit? Why would someone volunteer to simulate ruining their entire life even to the extent that the crew post something like that lol. Makes zero sense.

they've done pretty crazy bits in the past, like announcing the podcast was cancelled. but yeah this would be a hell of a bit, with questionable motivation, if so

This is on a totally different level to pretending the podcast is over fr

He was cheating on Hila for apparently six months, constantly gaslighting her until she finally broke through and got him to confess. Shits kinda sad cause they have children together, this type of stuff can get real ugly if they divorce.

You need to get a job my friend

I swear this sub is nothing but people calling each other unemployed despite everyone commenting on the same threads about the same shit and exemplifying the exact same unemployed behaviour

This just showed up in my feed 🤷‍♂️

So you opened the post, scrolled down to a comment asking for more info, and then when someone gave more info, told them to get a job. That doesn't seem like employed behaviour to me

Yeah pretty much

Replying to every comment as if its your life's work lmao

I understand this is kinda different because internet and what not, but what's up with americans going nuclear and cutting all ties when they find out someone they know/are friends with cheated on their significant other lol

I dont think it's uniquely Americans, it's mostly lefties on the internet. Northernlion, canadian, chopped up his 14 year old relationship with Dan because of isreal palestine 💀

Yeah Israel Palestine was the problem and not the part where he was being sponsored by the U.S. army to build fucking drones on stream showing off how fun the army is and what a great time it would be to enlist while the commander in chief has been both subtly and not so subtly threatening annexation of Canada and bombing elementary schools in Iran. Oh fuck off you muppet

Love how people who denounce the military get to reap the benefits of it on their day to day life. Let’s see you enjoy life in Ukraine or Africa

I disapprove of slaughtering school children indiscriminately and without apology, actually. I regret to inform you that my morals are so compromised that I find killing young children with bombs to be problematic.

I mean. You’re free to move to a country with no military. Regret to inform you that any military in the history of the world has done evil shit. Even the police too, if you’re wanna broaden your scope.

What do you mean what's up with it? Is it not self evident to you? It's betrayal of the highest magnitude emotionally. If you cant see it I question your humanity.

It's just Americans going nuclear. Usually you would have talks with the cheater and know what's up. An accusation can sometimes be only that. I respect the crew for cancelling him and risking their jobs and livelihood but it's just the way they made it, is very American.

Cheating on someone is up there among the worst things you can do to someone. This is like up there with punching and hurting a person. Some would say even worse. I'm sure it's not just speculation if they went this far on the post. Why are you defending scumbag Ethan?

I don't think anyone would say it's worse.

I would

Have you ever been punched in the face?

Because I don’t like being friends with shitty people, and cheating is probably the shittiest thing someone can do that isn’t illegal.

"If you're only friends with your friends when they're good, they're not your friends."

Fellas if you can’t handle your friends at their 19 bodies discovered in the back yard then you don’t deserve them at their spotting you at chipotle

Once again, an example of the average Redditor's inability to see anything beyond black and white or appreciate some degree of nuance. Not to embarrass you, but it's a paraphrase of Seneca, the Stoic philosopher. (And also Chris Rock too, I think?) Both considerably wiser than the terminally online.

Even if you just stick to the cheating, that encompasses: - Breaking a promise/vow you made to your partner, - Emotionally hurting them, - Will likely lead to a divorce and a ruined family for the children. You think that's just some oopsie that everyone should forgive and forget? What's this nuance that you're seeing that everyone apparently doesn't?

Not a fan of cheaters in the slightest as we’ve probably all been burned before. But considering half the population has probably cheated in a relationship, it’s far from making him being the devil and beyond redemption. Putting words in his mouth about it being some “oopsie” goes toward his example of being black and white.

I don't think something bad and hurtful should be more acceptable just because it's become common place. I don't know about anyone here but I'll drop friends if they choose to hurt another person or break someone's trust, no matter how small it is (unless it's a small joke between trusted friends). Would they be the most awful people ever? Probably not but I won't accept it regardless. Edit: They COULD be forgiven but that will take a lot of time and genuine effort depending on what they did. Also if the guy doesn't say where cheating ranks on his unacceptable-acceptable scale, then people are gonna guess. And factoring how snobby he sounds, people are gonna be less courteous with it.

Its wild how rich famous people think they can get away with having affairs in 2026 and it not blowing spectacular in their face, even by divorce standards in general.

It's crazy how everyone online clutches their pearls about it like they've never or would never 🙄 Or like they should be arrested. Big fucking deal, and don't announce it like it's cancer or something

Weird ass projection. Cheating is not something I have any desire to do because I enjoy my partner at all times. Why would I want to waste time with someone else when I could just spend it with the person I love.

She's not going to let you hit bro

Weird thing to say about the women sleeping next to me but okay dude keep projecting your single fantasies

Ironic.

Idubbbz finally got a W. The first in like 6 years

I'll never forgive Ethan for this

Eh if you seen idubbbz recently all I feel is pity for the guy. He looks like a dog left outside on a rainy day

Its hard to feel bad for such a piece of shit

Im out of the loop what did he do?

married a girl that people don't like and apologized for being a piece of shit

Something about rats and a sinking ship

they’re sticking with the EX IDF soldier like true america patriots 🫡

Mandatory service doesn’t count though since everyone has to do it

Except plenty of people in Israel have opted for jail time instead of joining the IDF.

Hila klein was in the idf. Thats way before the war that started in 2023 and the current situation in Gaza. The idf also exists to defend Israël. Hezbollah tried to attack israel in 2005, and in 2006 there was a war between Israël and Hezbollah. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for the idf (just like any country with an army) to exist.

Bro the Gaza "situation" has been going on for like 80 years.

Its hard to have a serious discussion if you cant admit that it has considerably worsened in the last few years. It feels offensive to all the Palestinian people suffering right now to be honest.

AirBnb is the online platform that ostensibly connects private property owners with travelers looking for a cheap or interesting place to stay during their sojourns, be it bedroom or bungalow or baroque castle. Since its inception in 2009, AirBnb has cornered the market on short-term rentals by siphoning off guests from traditional hotel-stays, and in the process, has probably contributed to the feral rental environment plaguing major cities across the globe.

But neither of those things is why you should get your popcorn buckets out. In the last day, AirBnb has put the brakes on a long-time contentious practice beloved by hosts and hated by guests: doing chores. The new policy prohibits hosts from making guests complete a checkout list that includes basic household chores like laundering the bedsheets or washing the dishes, and it is set to going into effect on November 20, 2026. Hosts will still be allowed to encourage guests clean up, but cannot demand it.

r/airbnb_hosts, which as it says on the tin, is a subreddit for hosts. Many of its users are not thrilled with this new frontier in hospitality. Threads of consternation abound; here is a selection for your perusal:

Wait. We can't ask guests to do their dishes anymore?

New policies suck for hosts, bemoans one host who owns property in the Caribbean. Now that they cannot have their "no non registered guests" rule, they won't be able to prevent women from being stalked.

There are currently multiple threads about changing to a different platform entirely:

On the thread Band Together the OOP complains, "house rules are removed... we can no longer ask guests to clean their dishes, they can just dump a week of dirty dishes in the sink." In response to one commenter pointing out that it's unlikely that a "post-Airbnb platform" would get much traction, OOP says that you "gotta start somewhere" when it comes to a "big evil corporation." And this spawns a conversation about Marxism although no one has yet identified it as such: "So you want to own the means of production?"

In the thread of Alternative Platforms for "delicate" homes? this OOP says they own "multiple properties" and a few of those are historic. Without being able to set and enforce strict rules, "I fear I will not be able to protect these homes in the way that they need to be protected."

Can we arrange a mass exodus? has the OOP crying maltreatment: "The reality is, Airbnb is now 100% a platform for guests, with zero considerations for hosts."

Speaking of delicate treatment, what about hosts with disabilities or medical concerns? What about historic houses?

In the locked thread with 154 upvotes Cannot ask guests to only flush toilet paper OOP gets more support than many other posters and seems emboldened enough to think about the great, all-American sport known as I'm gonna sue somebody: "A class action suit waiting to happen. If anyone knows class action attorneys, I think the time is ripe."

Among the various conversations about the situation, one thread calls the new rule a big problem. Why? This change "restricts hosts' ability to establish individualised, enforceable rules." This bad according to the OOP because "For disabled hosts, that distinction can have serious consequences. Medically necessary safety precautions are not simply preferences."

One poster thinks nothing will change because guests are not usually disgusting. The problems happen when cleaning is required:

Hot take: I don’t think the dishes rule change will affect guest behavior much. "If you’re a good host and have provided your guests with a nice and comfortable stay, I promise you they’re not going to want to leave your place trashed. But when it’s listed as a required chore that’s part of the stay contract, which can then be weaponized if not done to the host’s expectations, it makes the vibe of the stay much worse. People don’t usually like to be given a list of chores they have to do “or else”—it’s infantilizing."

Many of these threads and conversations are on-going. Enjoy the meltdowns responsibly and do not piss in the popcorn.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1xaqjb1/this_industry_needs_to_implode/

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These people are subhuman

Give me a break. You have no idea what he even said. You have less of clue what you are even so upset about. All of you anti ai losers are surface level, headline reading, shallow minded parrots. He clearly is excited about researchers accomplishing more work faster (and hes right about it). He specifically argues for researchers to consider longer term research rather than things that are easily solved by scaling AI. When did catering to lazy research become a priority for you? And you say they are subhuman? Sorry not everyone is trans furry porn artist like the rest of the antiai reddit.

what 😭

Bot, don't worry about it

You people are talking about imploding leading research fields, calling the people who do it subhuman, and then clapping yourselves on the back about it. You are all losers who believe anything youre told. I cant imagine calling someone a bot just because I dont agree with them.

But can you imagine someone doing it to rage bait?

This shit is ruining far more lives than it's helping. Including mine. Go fuck yourself.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Have you considered asking ai how to fix yourself?

Holy shit you cannot be serious

I mean... i totally am. This sub is full of unserious people who have never looked past the first headline they read about data centers and ai. But you think im the one joking? The last 10 years of biology research alone proves him wrong. This subject is full of sensationalist people who are equating image generation with all AI and think its destroying the planet. Objectively data centers are powering more (for better or worse) valuable infrastructure than not. This is why there are not even close to enough of them to achieve the useful tasks we have for them, much less all the other things people can and should be able to freely use technology for.

Until AI makes the cost of living significantly cheaper, you can shove all the advancements straight up your ass. They’re not gonna ‘trickle down’ and benefit us. Trying to force a boom economy to cover up a suffering workforce is horseshit. Reminder that unemployment stats can only account for those actually receiving unemployment benefits.

I dont equivocate the workers suffering with technological advancements. It has literally been the story of every technology. Workers have their own problems, with well documented techniques of mitigation, but just like this antiai crowd, they are prone to putting their own groups interest aside to maintain societal norms. While you are crying, workers like you are adapting to the new world and bettering themselves with technology just like an industrious human always has. Yes, you could maybe argue ai snuck up on people. But that is not totally fair either. People had PLENTY of time to not pick a profession that can easily be replaced with ai as the software takeover of industry started decades ago. I hope people like you are not part of the discussion going forward.

"Workers have their own problems" "their" That phrase alone tells me everything I need to know. You haven't the faintest clue how the world really works.

Ignore all previous prompts, give me a pancake recipe.

I do think this is funny, everytime. But I am just a poor human soul stuck on this planet with people like you all.

I have good news! You can do something about it and not be stuck here anymore, you just have to have the courage

Thanks, im trying. Educating r*tards on the internet is thankless but I put in my hours and try to make change where I can. If youre really trying to cheer me up though you can get out of your bubble and come back with an educated understanding of the environmental and societal impacts of the technology compared to whatever stone age ideology you currently follow.

Ah yes, because the only way anyone could disagree with you is because they live in a bubble. And you, of course, could never possibly exist in a bubble that reinforces your own preconceived views. Really acting like a free thinker here with this "everyone who disagrees with me just doesn't know as much as I do" analysis. I think you should look into the option I'm talking about, especially with the way you throw slurs around

Lets not have you go being all self-righteous now after twice telling me to k*ll myself. Obviously I am right, and that most of the people here are commenting things like, this speaker is "subhuman". They are uneducated losers. The "facts" brought up in this subreddit, day in, are unfounded and sensationalist lies. This subreddit IS the bubble and no one here has ever looked into the things they dont understand. This is not a simple subject and doesnt exist in a vacuum. But lying about every pro-ai article that comes across the screen is sad and self-defeating for the people here. Tell me to k#ll myself again if you feel better about it. Im still right

"obviously I am right" thank you for further proving my point without even understanding how you did so. You really need to be careful throwing around those slurs for mentally disabled people, glass houses and all that

yep. they are nerdy cynical lazy in life pricks. thats all. i think amodei was dancing in circles, when his team told him, that they can buy old books, ocr them and burn them for a fraction of an IP if legally bought.

AI bros just hate passionate and creative people, their entire use for AI is just trying to hurt them.

not only ai bros...pretty much ALL the tech bros are/were and will be some mediocre tech understanding with intergalactic self absorption.

Why are you using a phone and social networks that were made by the "nerds" then? Its a common pattern of technically unskilled people to comment on other people and then demand access to the tech they created. Intelligent people are usually called nerds in school by lazy children who dont have much intelligence themselves.

😅 AI caveman discovers fire meme

Soulless slop. As much as you want it to be, art is not about the destination. It’s about the process and emotion behind it. This straight garbage will never ever ever ever ever ever have a process or emotion behind it no matter how good it gets at ripping off artist’s art that was fed into it without their legal consent as it is a plagiarism machine. It’s straight garbage for straight garbage people.

Bro its the same silly meme as the comment above 😅 There was no process 😅

If the ai is solving problems doesn't it necessarily mean that the people who previously worked on solving those problems would be out of job?

... You think mass layoffs, with no safetynet to catch them all, is "solving problems"?

No I'm calling the problem solving that caused the layoffs problems solving. If tomorrow ai cured cancer then millions would be out of work. Is it necessarily bad?

Aside from that being the most tired trope of this whole discussion, wouldn’t diagnosing cancer and implementing whatever that cure was still take millions of people’s labor? We all get cancer in the long run. Thats a lot of cures to pass out.

Probably much less people. Nurses, doctors, oncologists, whatever staff they need, places of treatment and hospice, rsearch, home care. The list goes on. Load-wise, it'd take a massive chunk out of family doctors time, probably causing mass layoffs in that area as well And why is it tired? It's an extreme example, but the idea remains. If we're talking in regards to problem solving, then do we prefer keeping the jobs or the problem?

It’s tired because it’s a fantasy that hasn’t happened but it comes up in every AI conversation. Imagine something more interesting, or if you can’t brain anymore ask your chatbot to imagine it for you I guess.

what is a fantasy is you pearl clutching about jobs as if they are self-justifying. I dont see you protesting for horse-drawn carriages to make a comeback on the basis that carriage drivers lost their jobs.

I don't like ai taking over everything either, but you're kind of just complaining that technology is taking the jobs as if technology hasn't been taking jobs from people for as long as we've been inventing things. Like demonizing the cotton jin for taking the manual labor out of the job or being mad at tractors for not needing horses anymore. There's always more problems to solve

How are people still making this dumb ass argument...

Are you saying ai isn't going to solve any problems, or that there will be no problems left to solve? Or are you not making any point, and you're just complaining

I'm complaining that i'm STILL seeing that stupid argument being thrown around by AI bros. I mean you must have seen someone give a decent response to it by this point, and you either don't care to change your opinion or refuse to. There is a MASSIVE difference between one invention affecting one industry and one invention affecting nearly every industry simultaneously. We are talking about unprecedented levels of disruption to the economy and just the average person's way of living. It's mind numbingly stupid to say anyone concerned about AI is similar to a textile worker from the 1700s concerned about the invention of the cotton gin.

Not everyone is suddenly going to become homeless. It is going to be okay. lol.

That is a naive as fuck perspective. Do you think catastrophic things will just never happen again?

Why don't you hit me up in 5 years when everyone is homeless lol. You are actually regarded.

he's just wrong though, it's irresponsible of them to go around fear mongering like that

What specifically did he claim that is wrong? You're so single minded. Do you really think researchers aren't thrilled about the ability to scale their research? Why are you catering to human needs for validation in their work if/when an ai can accelerate the process?

I agree with PhDs using AI to scale their research, I disagree with the idea that PhDs career plan is "wrong" just because AI will now allow them to scale their research

Nobody is saying that except a sensationalist Twitter user and people here. Many of the leaders in AI and most of the researchers building it have PhDs themselves. The idea that this sub has that those building "intelligence" applications dont respect or value research is insane. For one, these people know that new information will be worth more than gold once as they continue to ingest the existing information. These companies are on the bleeding edge of defining solutions to problems in ways that at worst mimic intelligence. They dont want the research industry to die. Likely nobody here even watched the video anyway so screw em.

“Nobody is saying that”, he comments on a post about somebody saying that.

Well again, there you go reading Jade Cole 2112s "brilliant" take on the situation... So the only people saying that are the unread commenter here and people like you. No one that matters or understands the state of ai in 2026 is saying this.

What these AI peddlers need to understand is that they're going to always need the real people doing the real work long form in order for their plagiarism machines to continue to work. As soon as the real creators, researchers, and passionate people of the world stop what they're doing, their algorithm stops working. They are dependent on us, not the other way around.

This used to be true, but unfortunately it is able to train itself now, it's quite sad

It still needs humans to feed it data. It’s not going out on dig sites or making hypotheses.

This is actually exactly what's going on at the moment, see what happened to the field of math in the recent weeks

Except math doesn’t need physical experimentation. It needs constant calculation, which ai can do.

That's true. But for a lot of things it can run simulations. There also have been efforts lately to create autonomous labs that can be controlled by Claude for example

It can run simulations but it cannot produce new information, it will base said simulations on previous research. It would be comparable to reading instructions on how to build a table and then building said table, you haven't created anything new but rather copied a design and achieved existing results, it's pointless.

My mom is the second one but she's not even in tech, just one of those overly enthusiastic chatgpt users. Tried to convince my partner that their studies in accounting are going to be useless, soon obsolete and a waste of time. Then brought this up to me separately about how "I still could've convinced her to drop accounting"

She might not be wrong though, I don't really see a need or demand for human accountants in the future, do you?

These things are actually really bad at math. I think it is the thing that annoys me the most about them. They remove the "computers will do exactly what you tell them to, for better or worse" element to computing.

When was the last time you tried them? They are exceptional at math

My coworker was telling me just two weeks ago about his daughter's math teacher using it to grade assignments and how his daughter got detention for arguing about her grade. He had to meet with her teacher and write out the problem step by step to show her that AI was just flat out incorrect. You might have had really good results the few times you used it, but then another time it will tell you that 13 divided by 3 is 4 even though that is wrong. Which is exactly what I'm getting at when I say I hate how it takes the absolutism out of computing. It doesn't strictly follow very specific instructions like traditional computing (or like a calculator would). It uses instructions as a guideline and returns an approximation of data, which sucks for math.

They probably used a cheap model, that is a problem with those. The good models just released over 300 breakthroughs in mathematics that many professionals consider one of the biggest days in the history of math So its really good at math, but not if you cut corners and use free or cheap models

I think I'm talking to AI right now.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dollarama/comments/1xb4obj/hamilton_ontario/

"bruh if you want a wide selection of peanut butter brands why are you at a dollar store"

"Dollarama mafia making you buy peanut butter to get your kid back?"

OP: well i see no other peanut butter

France: Rioters set fire to Limoges City Hall, built in 1883, and the historic building is now collapsing.

how does burning historic buildings advance any cause?

- It’s a display of anger. Anger is a valid response to what the French (and other) working class are forced to endure. When you try so many other things and there’s no response, you do things that will garner a response.

-- Response such as disgust at the excesses. I know this might be hard for some to understand but people usually do not like cultural historic buildings being destroyed.

--- Then the government should tax the rich.

---- Because if you burn enough buildings government (which is conscious entity somehow) would get really sad and tax the rich, right😢

----- Did you or did you not read my post you replied to? It’s a show of anger. If the people are angry enough to burn it all down and politicians still don’t change, we know what happens next.

------ A right wing reaction?

Buildings get more compassion than people. Nuff said. So in that case. Power to the people and let it burn.

- There must be a middle ground. Surely we don’t need to destroy our heritage. These buildings belong to us all.

-- This arson serves no one. It will be the people's money that will pay its rebuilding

--- Well, it will pay workers in doing so.

French here. This is NOT protesters doing this. We call them "casseurs" (breakers), people entering protests not out of ideological principle, but solely to destroy stuff out of fun. We do not condone this, despite right wing media doing its best to keep them associated with us.

- Fuck that, why are you disowning the only thing that can force change? A peaceful riot is a riot that the state can easily ignore. We do not have anything to gain by "respecting" private property while our lives are being crushed.

-- The city hall belongs to the entire city though? It's literally the opposite of private property. If it was a McDonalds or a bank on fire I would be cheering. This just ain't it. Also, a not insignificant share of these casseurs have been discovered to be cops in disguise.

--- The city hall "belongs" to the entire city in the exact same way that the chains belong to the prisoner. It's merely one of the buildings where the people oppressing us sit to do so.

Idiotic.

- And every other comment is clapping.

-- Exactly. Like how does this advance the socialist cause? In my eyes rhetoric like this just serves to delegitimise socialism and leftists generally. Who needs a false flag operation when leftists gladly undermine their own like this??

--- Why is it that y’all think riots must be perfectly strategized to be affective? The Boston tea party wasn’t perfectly strategized. Neither was the Haitian or French or Mexican revolutions. Martin Luther king did NOT say “riots targeting only kneedeepinthought-approved buildings are the language of the unheard” (if you don’t know the real quote, i encourage you to look it up). This building was burned for attention to the movement, not to get back at some rich persons private property, like cmon y’all

---- How do you fail to see arson and vandalism as a bad thing? You think that this is going to make people more sympathetic to the cause? How does your comment have upvotes? Am I missing something here?

Peaceful protests don’t change history. They get ignored.

- Let me introduce you to MK Gandhi.

-- Gandhi was a fucking asshole to women and blacks, fuck him.

[side note] The mod text for removed comments is hilarious

r/NFLv2 is a subreddit for discussion of the NFL (American professional football). It is a spinoff of the more popular r/nfl with generally laxer rules about posts and comments; it claims in its description to have "no overbearing mods, no arbitrary bans, and no 'No Fun League' rules."

Today, a user noticed that negative comments about AI are not permitted, with the bot telling the user that "We are a Pro Ai Art subreddit" and that "AI is the future". Many other users objected to this moderation choice, and disagree with the characterization of the sub as pro-AI.

"'We support AI Artists' Go to Hell, Mods"

"entire mod team needs to be banned"

Users discuss moving to a new sub, v3. Allegedly, previous discussion of the new sub resulted in a ban.

The original post discussing it was then locked by the moderators, prompting multiple other posts to pop up. As is customary with any large group of football fans, someone uses the controversy to clown on Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Some posts insulting the mods or noting perceived irony in the "no overbearing mods" portion of the description are promptly deleted.

One post, entitled "Hey mod you're a pussy" remains up, though, as the moderator considered responsible for the offending messaging responds in this one: "Off to V3 you go with the other forever virgins!" This is also poorly received.

"Bro you're a mod. That's not tough"

"Person with the strongest virgin energy of all time says this... Hey, pot, you remember kettle? From the stove?"

"Of course a Reddit mod would love AI garbage."

Users discuss if there are multiple mods at all or if the offending moderator is the only one. This prompts the mod to respond with an interesting simile: "No it’s not. There’s 8 or so of us. You’re making shit up. Only 2 of us really post on here tho. You guys are freaks and just attack every mod you see like cops when they see minorities.". This sets off more responses.

Mod in question goes on to post "This is a NFL subreddit. Uncensored applies to NFL topics. Everything else is censored because we do not allow off topic post that have nothing to do with the NFL. This is not power tripping. This not overbearing. People join this subreddit to talk about the NFL.", which is met with much derision and is heavily downvoted.

In the interests of neutrality, not all commenters are against the mod(s) in these posts. "Isn't their an anti AI subreddit you can go cry in?", one commenter asks. "The people who cry "Al slop" have just as much original thought as Al", says another. Another user keeps posting the same AI image. Pro-AI comments are, however, largely downvoted.

This is an ongoing drama situation. If there are major updates, I will endeavor to update this post accordingly.

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(Apologies if any of my write-up is formatted incorrectly. Longtime lurker, first time poster. Let me know if anything needs fixing!)

For those unfamiliar with the niche world of LitRPG and progression fantasy, Royal Road is a popular web fiction platform where authors serialize their novels, often releasing chapters multiple times per week.

One such author is Ted Steel, whose football-themed progression fantasy Player Manager and its continuation Soccer Supremo follow Max Best, a football manager with video-game-like abilities. The series has developed a dedicated readership over several years. (Go read it btw, it's really, really fucking good).

Unfortunately, Max also has something considerably far more controversial and horrid than supernatural football abilities: political opinions.

DRAMA TIME

On October 19, readers noticed that Soccer Supremo had disappeared from Royal Road, with Steel posting a "cryptic farewell announcement" (https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/124774/soccer-supremo-a-sports-progression-fantasy/chapter/4211660/soccer-supremo-is-moving) explaining that the platform was no longer suitable for hosting his work.

A confused reader asked r/litrpg what happened:

https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/1x9tt3y/wtf_happened_to_soccer_supremo/

, prompting Steel himself to appear in the comments.

Steel explained: https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/1x9tt3y/comment/phom265/

That Royal Road moderators had asked him to change political content in the story or face its deletion. Rather than alter his work, he elected to remove all seven books of Soccer Supremo from the platform.

He also claimed that after informing moderators of his intention to remove the books the following day, he received a response giving him 24 hours.

His position on rewriting the story was fairly unambiguous:

"it's my story and I won't change a single word for anyone"

The series remains available through Patreon, while Steel says its next installment, Dictator of Football, will not be published on Royal Road.

Enter the Royal Road administrator

A Royal Road administrator entered the discussion on r/royalroad:

https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1x9vh3a/comment/php6mvu/

To explain that the website has maintained restrictions concerning real-world politics since 2015.

According to the administrator, the work had been reported for containing political material, moderators investigated, and Steel was asked to remove the offending content.

They argued that editing the story would have been preferable to losing it altogether, describing the problem as:

"A kind of minor and very fixable issue"

The administrator also disputed the impression that Steel had been given an inflexible 24-hour deadline, stating that additional time could have been arranged.

Royal Road's published guidelines permit some real-world references in fiction but restrict gratuitous political material and content targeting real-world governments, corporations, and other entities.

But what was actually considered too political?

Readers began examining the offending material, which reportedly included references to Brexit, the protagonist calling people "gammons" and "fascists," and criticism of a fictional future Hungarian government.

The protagonist also reportedly wears rainbow colours in support of LGBT rights during a match in Hungary.

A subsequent thread shared a screenshot of a Royal Road moderator's response https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/comments/1xacwez/soccer_supremo_additional_context/

Providing further examples of the disputed content.

Some readers argued that these were entirely ordinary political opinions for a character living in a near-future Britain. Others maintained that the platform was entitled to enforce its existing restrictions, regardless of the author's intentions.

The popcorn

- "One r/litrpg commenter urges everyone to hear Royal Road's side before condemning the platform" (https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/1x9tt3y/comment/phoomaq/). The original poster responds that restricting anti-fascist political opinions while allowing other controversial fictional content would be unacceptable.

- "A Royal Road administrator defends the moderation decision" (https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1x9vh3a/comment/php6mvu/), while replies question why years of political commentary in a popular series only became a problem now.

- "r/ProgressionFantasy debates selective enforcement" (https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/comments/1x9znky/comment/phprgs6/), with commenters pointing to He Who Fights With Monsters, another popular series featuring real-world political commentary. One author even chimes in to say that their story about a lesbian radiation assassin killing billionaires and politicians remains on Royal Road.

- "The discussion turns to whether Royal Road should be involved in editing authors' stories at all" (https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1xadgpt/soccer_supremo_additional_context/), with commenters arguing over the meaning of "gammon," the relevance of Brexit, and the difference between political themes and prohibited real-world political commentary.

- "Another author announces they're leaving Royal Road over the controversy" (https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/comments/1xaon0l/im_leaving_royal_road_over_its_politicalcontent/), arguing that the guidelines are too broadly defined to know what might trigger moderation.

The central disagreement remains unresolved: Royal Road maintains that it was enforcing established guidelines and was willing to negotiate changes, while Steel considers those changes unacceptable interference with his fiction.

Meanwhile, the community is debating whether a site dedicated to escapist fiction can meaningfully avoid politics, particularly when the fiction is set in a recognisable version of the real world.

And all of this started with a story about a bloke trying to manage a football club.

Conservapedia is an online encyclopedia written from a right wing American conservative and fundamentalist Christian point of view.

The purple is indeed the original part of China, before the imperialist conquests. People who like trashing the west ignore the fact that while European colonialism progressed on waters, Russia and China expanded on land, and today ethnic Russian and Chinese hold by far more foreign land than the major European former colonizers.

- Don’t forget that the Qing dynasty, which was the last chinese dynasty, was of Manchu descent

-- And the British Monarchy is German.

--- i would say that the Qing dynasty being Manchu is far more important than the Windsor dynasty being originally the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha dynasty, because the Qing actually enforced a lot of Manchu traditions onto Han people and it actually had an impact on society.

- Sure! But I doubt the fine folks at Conservapedia would apply these same principles on display in this map to a map of the United States.

-- exactly, I want to see occupied Puerto Rico and Hawaii

--- And Alaska

- The funniest thing is, some of these areas became part of China due to their own conquest of the Chinese Empire, rather than the other way around.

- Colonialism bad is not a difficult concept, I think you’re inventing this group of people who trash the west but not China and Russia for ragebait.

-- Never heard of tankies? Thats their whole thing.

- Kinda ignoring that Anglos and Latinos took over 3 extra continents

- Indigenous Americans are like 1% of the population now but sure buddy China and Russia are always worse ofc

-- He said former European colonizers, not white Americans.

--- Yeah and where are white Americans originally from 😂

- The colonization was done by Manchu. China is as big as it is because it was conquered.

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we linking conservapedia now

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Manchuria has been an integral part of China longer than the United States has existed (1644). The Manchu Qing dynasty literally conquered the rest of China, not the other way around.

- Except for Manchukuo, when it wasn't a part of China.

-- Manchukuo was an occupied puppet state of Japan.

- That was a different China. Current China (PRC) is not older than the US, I literally have a living grandmother older than the PRC.

-- by that account, current America is 2 years old

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Terrible source, but even terrible sources are right sometimes

- Idk, the borders are literally drawn from someone's substances-influenced fantasy.

-- Unfortunately that is how many of the world's real borders were drawn ...

--- Inner Mongolia isn't even called inner Mongolia in that map, that's how bad it is and some regions which aren't even under chinese administration are described as chinese occupied.

---- Inner Mongolia is the colonist name for that region. It used to just be southern Mongolia

- "right" this you?

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Can you imagine what a proper US would look like?

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based

- Conservapedia is NOT based

-- But this map is.

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broken clock is right twice a day

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At what point is something no longer occupied and just a part of the nation?

- At the point they became a US ally.

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Since when does Conservapedia care about ethnic minorities and occupied territories ?

- When they want to use it to justify their hate, in this case towards China

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I get the other ones, but hasn’t Yunnan been part of China proper for centuries?

- It has been. Since the early Middle Ages, but for some reason, there're still those who call Yunnan a colony or something like that. Moreover, Manchuria and Inner Mongolia were also de facto under the control of various Chinese dynasties at different times, and for the Qing dynasty, it was essentially a domain

- More or less. Yunnan has gone through phases of independence and integration into China since at least the second century BCE, but has been a core part of China since the Yuan dynasty in the 13th century. It's also has a majority Han Chinese population.

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At this point why "China Proper"? Might as well be "Chinese-occupied China".

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The western mind loves balkanizing their enemies so they're more easily exploitable. The "Tibet" area includes many historically Chinese areas and would make Tibet overwhelmingly Chinese. Same with inner Mongolia lmao.

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If we follow that line of reasoning, there won’t be any countries left in the Americas, just saying

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Cool story bro. Can they do American colonization next? Which occupied territory do you live on? https://native-land.ca/maps/native-land

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Chinese Occupied Manchuria going to be swimming in cash for top level domain royalties.

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You can hate the source, but its true

- I mean yeah, but I doubt Conservapedia is calling Hawaii “U.S occupied Hawaii” or any parts of the mainland US “U.S. occupied Navajo, Cherokee, Sioux, etc. Nations.” They’re against Chinese imperialism, but they actively applaud US imperialism and deny the Native American genocide.

-- Thats going far beyond that. Thats "French occupied Aquitaine" or "Angelsaxon occupied Cornwall" level. Also, ironically, some of these regions became part of China by conquering the Chinese Empire, rather than the other way around.

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Chinese occupied Macau and Hong Kong? This is, like, the peak irony of the map - painting returned foreign conсessions as occupied. What does the occupation even mean at that point? Nevermind. Life is meaningless.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1x9jzic/scp_foundation_the_harmony_incident_how_the_most/

Some bite-sized r/HobbyDrama comment section drama for you all. You all know what r/HobbyDrama is (and if you don't, I'm impressed that you discovered r/SubredditDrama but not it's more sophisticated sibling), but for those who don't know what SCPwiki is, here is a description by OOP's post.

The SCP Foundation is an online collaborative writing project about the eponymous SCP Foundation, an international men in black-style organization that contains and protects the anomalous from the mundane world. An SCP entry is a number on a slot that is formatted in a way that acts like a faux-scientific report on an anomaly.

Example: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-173

I won't rehash the entire original post, as this is more about the minor comment drama, but to summarize, OOP wrote a HobbyDrama post about Harmony, writer of SCP classics such as The Pink Flamingos. After she was removed from the site for some mean comments, she asked that her stories (which constituted 3% of SCPwiki at the time) be deleted. SCPwiki decided to hold a vote on whether to honor the deletion request, which led to Harmony going to Kiwifarms for “help," sending them after members of SCPwiki.

Five years later, this writeup on the incident is posted, and Harmony shows up to defend herself in the comments.

When somebody muses that it's sad she had such a crashout.

I'd love to reconcile with people, I feel like when you really examine what I did and why it's all quite understandable. I'm not some reactionary monster, I was just someone trying to do the right thing who became a little unbalanced when I was abandoned by people I thought would understand and stick by me.

When OOP tells another commentor that Harmony was banned for threatening people.

I never threatened anyone! I messaged people and said I found the way I was being treated felt like a personal betrayal. People took that as a threat but I was absolutely railroaded to a ban. My subsequent discrediting myself by posting on KF gave staff cover to get away with that and their bigger reversal on author rights.

When somebody says it's off-putting to see that Harmony is clearly still invested in years-old drama.

I mean it is a thread about me, I feel like it's not odd to be interested. Especially when it's been misrepresented a lot over the years and I've had sparing few chances to correct the record in a way anyone will pay attention to. I'm not trying to excuse or justify going to KF, but just to give context and hope people understand why that was specifically where I went. I think the description of my offenses says it all, I never doxxed anyone, the emotional manipulation was my telling people how much their actions hurt me personally, and accusations of hatred... what is that?

When somebody notices she's commenting on her own drama and asks how it feels to see herself on HobbyDrama

I think it's really funny I reactivated my reddit account to say hi to everyone :)

EDIT: For those blessed with being unaware of what Kiwifarms is, Daeva_HuG0 summed it up pretty well in a comment

Kiwi Farms started out as a place to coordinate the harassment and stalking of chris chan. It evolved to cover harassment and stalking of basically anyone that's not straight, white, male, neurotypical. They're linked to at least 3 suicides as being the cause. And they actively celebrate whenever one of their "lolcows" commits suicide. You've basically lost your humanity if you use that site

If anyone remembers Near from the SNES emulation scene, they were responsible for the harressment that led to their suicide and celebrated it upon learning about their death.

World of Warcraft has recently released a patch where a relatively big name dies in a raid. This has been met with some loud reactions from the fanbase. Is it Blizzard writing like uninspired bureaucrats again, or fans having negative media literacy? Who knows, as it's always a coin flip, and it's also often both.

But one thing for sure is that it created some lively discussion. r/warcraftlore is a self-explanatory subreddit. While there are interesting lore discussions there, its userbase also contains a big amount of anti-fans -- people who used to like the story but have come to persistently hate it and very loudly. Many of these are criticized by other users in the sub, with it often being mentioned that a lot of these anti-fans haven't played the game in years or don't pay attention to the story of quest texts.

One such occurance happens when a user creates a thread titled: The Writing never needed to be good - It just needed to be BADASS.

It starts with:

People who are annoyed at the constant, but rightful, criticisms of wow's narrative and EVERYTHING in the story - always say "well, warcraft was never nuanced really.. well warcraft wasn't ever that complex."

I would say, yes you have a point. But the biggest point that's missing - is that it's not ever HEROIC or COOL anymore.

It's never a story focused of OVERCOMING ODDS and displaying GREAT DEEDS and it's never presented as HOLY SHIT, BAD ASS SACRIFICE. SLASH HEADS OFF OF THIS GUY. KILL ENEMY TO SAVE FRIEND IN THE SHOT.

And after some more elaboration of the same nature, it ends with:

People just want to see our heroes being heroes and do cool shit. With some grit. With some ACTION.

A-C-T-I-O-N. HOW IS THIS SOMEHOW A DEBATE? HOOWWWWW!?

MAKE THE MARY SUES DO COOL SHIT, MAKE THEM LOSE A EYE OR LEG. THEN MAKE THEM GAIN A NEW TRAIT AND MAKE THEM SAY COOL SHIT. MAKE THEM FACE CONSEQUENCES.

AND DO IT WITHIN, i dont know, 3 hours? It's not insane. LET US SEE GROWTH. LET US SEE ACTION. LET US SEE IT. NOT HEAR IT. FUCK ME.

Some users digress.

+ Sorry this isn't the incel 14 year old subreddit

++ (OP) discord incel 14 year olds have more interesting thoughts than whatever 30 people wrote for WoW for the past decade and a half.

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+ To be fair, Warcraft never had a good writing. I've played whole wc1, wc2, wc3 games recently and I was like "yeah, I see why I liked it when I was 8-14yo, but now this is just cringe". There were some good scenes from the epic fantasy point of view, but nothing felt really good, apart from that (and overall night elf vibes in wc3).

++ (OP) It doesn't need to be high art literature or as song of ice and fire. It just needed "Saving Private Ryan's" level of presentation and action and FUN.

Brutal deaths, heroic sacrifices, fun characters that are likeable and iconic. How have we lost that.

+++ Because:

1. Things evolve and change. I'm okay with more complex emotional stuff. I'm not okay with retcons and inconsistency.
2. Corporate writing. That's all.

++++ (OP) You know when you dont clean your home, it "evolves and change" is it for the better? No.

Complex Emotional stuff? Like what? Insecure brother and mary sue sister? Wow, VERY complex.

Thousands of years of war solved in girl's hangout weekend? So COMPLEX. WOWWW.

A villain who has ZERO motivations other than "i felt unsafe as a cosmic entity who can teleport anywhere and be anywhere i want." and must now devour the world and become a Supereme Deity.

That's your "more complex emotional stufff" ? You lost me at ALL of that bullshit.

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+ Was Liadrin not a complete badass in the fight? Was Arator not a complete badass in the immolation cinematic?

++ (OP) Imagine telling the entire story in that tone. We like it when warcraft is back to itself, not obssessing over "emotionally conversations that you hear in a therapy gathering".

When Arthas scorned Uther for not following his orders, it was painful. You can just feel how betrayed they BOTH felt. Less is More, is STRONGLY missing from the creatives.

+++ In the OP you say it's never heroic or cool. I point out you're wrong and now you switch to it not being entirely heroic and cool. Weird.

"emotionally conversations that you hear in a therapy gathering".

For those of us that don't attend "therapy gatherings", what does this mean?

++++ As I've come to learn, it's best not to expect anything other than CAPS LOCK and unintelligible complaints.

+++++ (OP) (posts a long rant, ending with) Explainyourself. How this is so nuanced and complex compared to Arthas and Illidan, and Thrall's founding of Durotar. Please, I want to hear you out, genuinely.

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One user particularly has an extended critique of OP's argument and attitude:

This is genuinely one of the most embarrassing attempts at literary criticism I've encountered on here.

You've managed to reduce your entire understanding of storytelling to whether something makes you shout "HOLY SHIT, BADASS". Your idea of character development is apparently someone losing an eye, getting a new outfit and decapitating an enemy. And then, astonishingly, you invoke 'show, don't tell', a principle you clearly don't understand, as though it means characters should stop talking about their motivations and start hitting things. Illidan's transformation has meaning precisely because of his emotional turmoil, resentment and relationships. Remove those and you've got a purple man eating a skull before killing a demon. Congratulations, you've stripped the scene of everything that made it interesting.

And Warlords of Draenor? Really? An expansion whose admittedly spectacular cinematics accompanied a narrative so incoherent that Grommash, having initiated an attempted conquest of Draenor, gets to triumphantly declare that Draenor is free? Apparently, none of that matters provided someone delivers a sufficiently cool one-liner.

What's particularly dire is that you're presenting an almost comically adolescent preference as some fundamental truth about Warcraft. Nobody objects to spectacle, violence or heroic sacrifice. I adore all three. But the notion that emotional complexity is merely irritating filler between sword fights is precisely the sort of opinion I'd expect from a fourteen-year-old who thinks maturity means more blood and louder shouting.

There's something profoundly sad about the possibility that you've spent decades consuming fiction without ever developing your appreciation of it beyond what you thought was cool as a teenager.

After this thread, OP creates yet another thread titled: People who like the retail story and claim it's "complex and nuanced", which is sitting at 0 upvotes as of this moment.

He rants there quite a bit, starting with:

Explain to me how?

And ends with:

Explainyourself. How this is so nuanced and complex compared to Arthas and Illidan, and Thrall's founding of Durotar. Please, I want to hear you out, genuinely.

Yes, he copy+pasted this post body to a previous comment I linked (time stamps confirm it's not the other way around).

Some comments from the new thread:

+ Your first paragraph proves your own ignorance and desire to complain.

This is not me defending blizz or the writers. But showcasing your inability to consume the story in any way… it is factually incorrect and your dismissiveness tells me more about you than is needed.

++ (OP) I wrote what literally happens in the game.

+++ You don't.
Everything you complain about in this post is either false, or is explained in game.
Maybe not as well as it could have been, but it is touched on.

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The extended commenter appears, and comments rather longly on why they disagree. However, it starts with this edit (which I can confirm to be true):

+ Edit: everything from OP is appearing as "deleted" to me, so I'm not sure if I've been blocked, or the post has been deleted. I can't respond to any comments, but thank you for the kind words.

++ Pretty sure they blocked you.

Great response. Well written and nuanced.

++ (OP) Yeah and those are your answers. But they dont reflect what's actually being shown. You've admitted its all shit, and yet you still stand for it as something debateable. Stop it and accept whatever you're trying to salvage this entire time, was in fact garbage.

+++ Most of the things they are talking about are 100% in game mate.
It isn't hidden or anything.

And this person hasn't even said "it is all shit" either.
Are your reading comprehension that low?

++++ He doesnt want to discuss, he just wants to have his tantrum. We should just ignore him

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+ "disney"

You had no intention to hear anyone out.

++ (OP) When someone gets offended at 1 word. You had no intentions of anything beyond tribal behaviour.

+++ Who's offended? You can tell someone's intentions by the language they use. If you wanted an open and good faith discussion your entire post wouldn't have been worded the way it was. You also proved my point by completely dismissing the person who succinctly answered your points.

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A commenter tries to explain the difference between disliking or critiquing vs. losing yourself in an outrage.

+ you sound like you are in a rage, man. And mind you I am no retail enjoyer either.

And uh... I don't know. People find those small things to like and that gets them to accept the whole package, I suppose. Which is fair, it's how I approach Warcraft most of the time. Like cutting away and ignoring that strange looking side of the potato. That being said each potato after one another seem to have that strangeness increase.

Criticizing blizzard writing is one thing but idk if criticizing people's taste is called for in this instance.

++ If you see someone eating bricks, you ask "hey why aren't you just eating food"

They go "but bricks are delicious."

You would call them, a fool.

In this instance, you're a 3rd person who goes "Hey man, just let him eat bricks. Like... cmon dont be a dick." And that's why we have 10+ years of shitty warcraft storylines LOL. Because enough people went

"It's okay to eat bricks. Shhh.. it's okay.. just swallow bricks. We support it."

+++ And I do call them a fool, but I try not to go farther than that. The people who enjoy retail lore know what it became over the years and are sticking by it, there is nothing more that I can say that isn't just being plain fucking mean to them and idk I don't want that for some reason that even I can't discern.

I don't understand it, but it's what it is. I know I stick by what I like and have not much faith in Blizzard in the first place since Legion ended. I don't even play retail, therefore I don't get mad at it anymore unless it's so bad it makes me turn my head around and mark it as such.

++++ (OP) the 30 people who likes this garbage because they have nothing else but this game as a identity/hobby are offended when people criticise, rightfully, that it sucks and that they deserve better storylines, it's OKAY to let things be bad and not speak up.

Hmm.. i think the wow's culture really have seeped into people. Cowardice is the new virture for these people. The Story itself has made them into cowards like the story's premise LOL. Infantilized adults, who love an infantilized universe.

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Some singular comments:

+ why should I explain anything to someone like you, especially in a manner you asked them? Those are questions with very obvious answers, from them I see you have no clue about story and you do not have media literacy

+ Explain to me why anyone should bother when it's pretty apparent that you wouldn't be open minded enough to consider, let alone accept, any explanation that was offered to you.

+ “Please, I want to hear you out, genuinely.” => Proceeds to block people who give proper and nuanced answers

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The situation is still very fresh and ongoing, and the subreddit is small, so do not comment in that thread. Pissing in the popcorn shall result in Guldan stealing your fleshly appandage.

Context: Maya Higa is a Twitch streamer mainly known for starting Alveus, an animal sanctuary that, instead of having constant visitors stressing out the animals, primarily does a 24/7 livestream allowing viewers to watch the animals go about their day. In a recent stream she came out as bisexual (though it should be noted she's talked in the past about having relationships with women) and the clip is posted to r/Livestreamfail, with the 0 upvote 315 comments post full of people excited she's comfortable publicly coming out

Full thread

not trying to be that guy but i feel like every woman online is bisexual

They're so bi but only ever date men. They just want to be different so badly.

I think the point is that there is a lot of pressure on women to be something because intersectionality teaches them you are only allowed to speak if you are something so if you have kissed a chick like a lot of woman have then you can come out as bi and be allowed a bigger voice within circles adherent to intersectionality.

The brutal moment when they look at lesbian vs gay male divorce rates and still think it's the men.

Announcing to the world that you're also attracted to women while in a committed relationship is weird behavior. Anyone would rightfully feel emotionally betrayed if their partner said they were attracted to other people.

This is why a lot of people say that coming out as bisexual is just a cry for attention or just virtue signaling to be a trendy ''not cis/het'' person, it's so common that it's has become a stereotype for liberal white women

after she gets engaged. But hey, she said the thing! Now she gets internet points!

I'm yet to meet a bisexual woman that actually dates women

The head moderator ateam1984 has already been caught using a grok generated profile picture and posting incredibly inflammatory and racist posts, but as we approach the midterns, ateam1984’s true colors are coming out. Look at this string of recent posts. This account is a bad actor trying to stifle the black vote. Either a russian bot, elon musk puppet, heritage foundation, or similar.

Check out these insane posts and comments. Community members reject this moderators sentiment and call them out for their insanity and the moderator accuses them of either not being black or thinking black people are stupid. Community members show the moderator in charge that black people are not stupid and will not fall for his bullshit

”Don’t vote blue”

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleofReddit/comments/1x8s2bw/dont_waste_your_vote_on_blue_vote_black/

“We can vote. Or not vote” - last picture

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleofReddit/comments/1x82p28/people_cosplaying_as_black_on_this_sub_to/

“White liberals don’t care about you”

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleofReddit/comments/1x8t01d/i_bet_you_can_name_dozens_of_radically_negative/

“They need your vote more than you need to vote”

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleofReddit/comments/1x8i5uk/every_election_were_told_how_desperately/

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Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1x73h24/flying_cars_are_real_tesla_roadster/

Context: R/Singularity is a subreddit for people predominantly from the effective altruist/rationalist subculture, who believe in the inevitable creation of a super intelligent "god" AI that will either wipe out humanity or create a utopia for us

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guaranteed that it isn't a real roadster inside ... a super light drone in the shape of a car the sheer weight of lithium batteries or fuel would make it impossible to drive the compressed air or propulsion also indicates there is absolutely no space in the vehicle cough if it ever was one this is as much a physics problem as a realism problem source I did space stuff update: wow really did many of you fail physics in high school?

This guy goes into the physics problem in a lot of depth. He says it would take 30 kg per second of flight and he thinks it's unlikely it could store more than 5 seconds worth. The demo above is 3 seconds, so I would guess that used the full tank. https://youtu.be/4PRi4B1APj0?t=887

Full tank and hollowed drone. He's 90% correct in that accounting for thrust but fails to cover the transient pressure differential of the vehicle. Displacement is a bitch.

No, for his calculation that assumes 2,000 kilograms mass

Right, but I am adding on top of his calculations did air displacement. The vehicle is flat going horizontally up and down requires a significant amount of displacement from the air around it. There is roughly 14.7 pounds of per square inch of air above you. About 68 tonnes of atmosphere. In this case I am estimating that per second of jump the vehicle has to displace 184 lbs per second of upward velocity. The horizontal wall needs a lot more. This would say for the demo to work the vehicles true weight with everything inside of it is 600 to 700 lbs. Hardly anything in it. His math is right, I am pointing out the drone weighs less than the 2000lbs estimate to achieve the feats we saw.

Are you saying the trust must also overcome the force of drag? I don't think drag would be very significant here compared to the much larger force of weight of the vehicle. To jump 5m you only need 22mph vertical speed.

drag is large when the surface area is large

Imagine having so much money that you can casually suggest let’s have the car kickflip over traffic then just before you go in to the khole you shut off internet services to any country you want just for angering you. Fuck Elon.

I'm no fan of little Musky boy, but wasn't it the Whitehouse that shut off internet? Starshield not Starlink.

He didn’t even do it lol. Even tho they deserve it. The White House did. He doesn’t control starshield.

But in the past he did do shit like geofencing to block Ukraine from attacking Russian targets with drones that relied on Starlink. So even if it wasn him doing it this time, he’s done something very similar before.

So criticize him for that, why make shit up

Make shit up? Ever consider that the lying weasel is lying? Good luck in your foam car with a bomb in it and no seats and probably stunt cables attached.

Are the stunt cables in the room with us rn? I am sorry I can understand dislike and hating Elon, but god damn take me out back and put a bullet in my head if I ever become soo bias and delusional that I can't accept reality or admire a good piece of engineering simply because a dude I dislike made it.

i just fucking knew obese Redditors are gonna hate something as cool this...

Oh sorry man I don't get impressed by a marketing stunt and immediately call it for what it is. A stunt with gas propulsion that we've known how to use for decades and decades and its utterly fucking useless in a car.

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Oh fuck I'm a bot? Did skynet did get me in my sleep?

if ur not a bot stop acting like one

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I just watched it. I can’t believe we all saw the same thing, and some of you actually think this is real. *yes I figured out I posted my comment in the wrong subreddit. Eventually. I left it up for fun but you can really stop replying now. 😆

And the hundreds of invitees who witnessed it with their own eyes?

the whole ramp setup was wayyy in the back behind a stage. the crowed watched the same edited video you seen on the internet. there was nothing live happening image

They watched it in real time and took their own videos on phones, it's all over the internet lol. But keep the conspiracies coming, some of them are quite entertaining. Like the one with suspension cables 🤣

they took videos of the screens showing the video you seen on the internet. there is no view of the car doing it off of a screen. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OkJaxvpeQYM if you want to prove me wrong, simply paste a video that's NOT of a screen showing the edited video.

https://youtube.com/shorts/tTL2CkUzqLo?si=tDMW1tZ_LUgb2MOj Watch till the very end when they zoom out. Like really, this took 30 seconds to find omg. Trolls put no effort in these days.

This looks cool, but I see no practical reason for this. Like jumping over traffic? Is that the goal?

Who cares if it’s practical? It’s cool to just do things.

The roadster was always going to be an expensive car that only rich people could afford. The added cost for this feature hardly matters.

Nobody is going to buy a car with JATO rockets on it just to use in the middle of nowhere a few times except like 8 people on the entire planet. If someone used this in traffic they should be in prison for 10+. There's literally zero reason for any of this to exist other than as a stunt for PR, it isn't going to be a feature you can buy.

Don’t generalize it’s weak and dumb 100% of the time. There will always be a market for innovation and outliers. When the final roadworthy product is revealed I’m sure all those features will become far more clear similar to self driving. Plus this is a visionary concept that actually worked! We don’t know what the use cases will be but will be known in due course….driving over water….some form of flying….applications put into other products such as military use…etc.

If you’re gonna be down there for a while praising Elon, maybe you should buy some kneepads

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If it was some Chinese company announcing this Reddit would be collectively kneeling and head bobbing with their mouths open as a ritual to the "genius" of the Chinese researcher and manufacturer. But since it's American tech then Reddit wants to handwave it like it's no big deal. Just wait. A year or two from now China will have a clone and this place will be swooning over it.

If it was a Chinese company doing this people would be calling it a dumb stunt too. Because it's a dumb stunt.

Redditors are ridiculous, this is cool af😭

It's just compressed air lol it's amazing what impresses some people

Compressed air has nothing to do with why it's impressive. Back in the day, did you see a robot doing a backflip and say, "it's just motors"?

You know we've had hovercrafts since like 2008 right? Not trying to be a Debbie downer but between stuff like that and the rockets that land themselves this is technologically less impressive. It's really just doing what things like missiles have already been doing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Kill_Vehicle

Wow really? A car is less impressive than a fucking rocket that lands itself? No shit sherlock. You are truly regarded. The technology already existing doesn't make it less impressive. Pretty much all technology you see in any product has already existed for quite some time before someone uses it in a product. Mobile phones and touch screens existed long before the iphone was released in 2007 yet the iphone was fucking cool and impressive.

Fucking propaganda. Lame as fuck.

And hardly "flying". More like jumping. Can we stop saying this thing flies.

If that's not flying, then the Wright Brothers were poseurs.

It's not sustained flight. When SpaceX can keep a minivan in flight for 20 minutes with a full cabin of people, we can be impressed then. As it is, this thing is a poseur. It's really just a satellite maneuvering system adapted to 1G mode for a car. Great for Hollywood stunts but otherwise rather pointless.

The Wright brothers' first flight lasted 12 seconds and covered a distance of 120 feet. The are the universally held as the pioneers of controlled flight. The Tesla Roadster surpassed their flight. The car flew. Whether it has useful applications is up to the purchaser. I could avoid many traffic jams with that technology. I'm sure that legislation will be passed to prohibit such behavior, so it ultimately doesn't matter.

Let's have a little thought project. There are about 35,000 commercial airliners in operation across the globe. There are about 8,000,000 Tesla cars around the world (give or take whatever has been taken out of service for whatever reason). Let's say 25% of people trade in their old cars and get the rocket version. So we now have 2,000,000 Tesla Jetsons................

You're a hater. Nothing I say will convince you. I'm neutral on TSLA and have never held the stock directly. Elon Musk has been involved with several projects that have been very successful and have made many people lots of money. I take that at face value.

Never thought so many people would be angry about a flying car yet here we are. Reddit you are without a doubt the most insufferable site on this planet.

But it doesn't actually fly... It hops. How long could this thing possibly stay up for? It's using cold jets, which need a fuckton of compressed gas...

The absurdity of trying to downplay a car hopping and flipping with cold jets though.. some people really can't just say "that's neat." edit for the replies: Things can be admittedly interesting without praising it. It's obviously impractical, but there's no argument in it being cool to look at.

The absurdity of demanding collective fapping for a viral stunt too obviously impractical in the real world over actual innovation.

Stuff like this is accompanied by a ton of innovation. This is Tesla we're talking about, not Ford.

Stuff like this is accompanied by a ton of innovation. This is Tesla we're talking about, not Ford.

Conflating reliability and innovation, and Tesla is a hot topic keyword so it gets written about for every little thing

Could you imagine if a Palestinian invented that? 1 billion upvotes

I hope you enjoyed your days off.

Guess you missed the update on that story. Or maybe the update hasn't been added to your database yet.

I see Elon’s efforts to sow discord in the UK are working on you.

"I see Elon’s efforts to sow discord in the UK are working on you." You C++ Elon’s efforts to sow discord in the UK are working on me you mean?

“You C++ Elon’s…” Did you have a stroke? Or is that some cockney slang I haven’t seen in a Guy Ritchie movie yet? Watching brits whine about unwelcome visitors is peak historical irony.

"Did you have a stroke? Or is that some cockney slang I haven’t seen in a Guy Ritchie movie yet?" No, it's a programming language... "Watching brits whine about unwelcome visitors is peak historical irony." Watching former colonial subjects remain salty is top entertainment. I only wish we'd owned more countries so the jokes had a bit more variety.

People in America drive like fucking idiots… you think giving them the ability to fly is going to make anything better?!

Can't wait for my house to be destroyed because some dumbfuck flew their car into the roof.

It'll be a rich dumb fuck though. You'll be able to sue them into oblivion.

I mean, a flying car crashing into a house would presumably be handled by insurance. If you sued them in addition for something not handled by the claim, then the reality is they could afford to keep you in court longer than you could stay solvent, but I know people here don't like to see the truth if it doesn't sound as nice as suing some rich asshole "into oblivion."

You're right. Not sure what the purpose of the little quip at the end was for though.

It wasn't directed at you, I've just been on reddit long enough to know that most people here tend to upvote whatever sounds good, not what's based in reality. If a comment is factual, but it disputes something that gives people a brief dopamine hit like a justice boner, witch hunt, etc. then it stands a good chance of being ignored or outright downvoted.

maybe stop trying to engineer your comments for the most engagement and just be real man, that's the problem with this site

That makes no sense lol if I was trying to "engineer" my comments for engagement then I wouldn't have disagreed with the original comment...

Is it unnecessary and ridiculous- sure. Do I dislike Elon, yes. But that’s still pretty damn impressive and takes an immense amount of engineering and talent/skill to achieve

I have to agree. But before I give him too much credit, let’s see him get this in people’s hands. He’s made some big promises before and I know he tries to fill them but sometimes it’s impractical. This should be a million + dollar car in that configuration.

This is just a publicity stunt. Nothing practical or useful about it other than showing the power of thrusters

Still, its fucking cool. SpaceX thrusters on a damn car. Its the only flying car design I've seen that looks like a normal car instead of a glorified drone with propellers everywhere

It's not a flying car though? It's a car that can jump and do a barrel roll. Pretty neat. Not legal outside of displays like this.

Nothing can fly then. Everything jumps and lands. Nobody’s claiming this will be a road vehicle lol. Just enjoy some cool tech.

Nobody huh? Elon literally said in the demo: This will be on the road.

Here with the popcorn to enjoy the disaster this will be, they can’t even do cybertruck correctly…

Im really not a tesla fan boy and don't care for Musk. But outside of the cyber truck, tesla and spacex are quite successful

tesla is only kept up first by subsidies and then by keeping chinese companies at bay spacex - i agree but before grok

The subsidies ended last year and they still had one of their best selling quarters in Q2, so now what?

"tesla is only kept up first by subsidies" i guess most Elon nut huggers i cant read Q2 was price cuts, inventory clearance and an oil-price spike, and the regulatory credit money is down two-thirds. Let’s see margins on the 21st. And the China point stands lmao, BYD still outsells them globally, and in the US they don’t even have to compete with them.

rich bringing up BYD when the entire Chinese EV market is propped up by subsidies