Honestly, this is something that's never really been clear to me. I always assumed he left the order sometime after Episode 1 and became Palpatine's apprentice sometime between Episodes 1 and 2. But The Clone Wars and more recently the Tales of the Jedi series seem to imply that he's been working with the sith for some time both before leaving the order and becoming Palpatines apprentice. Also, how could both him and Maul be his apprentices at the same time given the rule of two? Is it different in Legends and Canon?

So I’ve been watching Andor, (both seasons) Rogue One, and A New Hope in a marathon. While I was using a journal to write on the state of the galaxy in the time period and list everything The Empire did as they consolidated their power or how they were growing their influence year by year culminating in the dissolution of the Senate such as The PORD following the Aldhani Heist, the construction of The Death Star and it’s first test, and the propaganda on the Ghormans.

while I was doing this project I began to remember a critical detail not from the film but from a deleted scene in a New Hope which happens before Palpatine officially dissolved the senate. I’m talking the Biggs and Luke deleted scene.

In the deleted scene Biggs states Commerce are started to get imperalize by the empire in all the outlying systems the way he mentions it to Luke it make it seem as if it is a more recent thing which is interesting looking back given what we know now with the context of the Prequel Trilogy and especially in the Clone Wars where the banking clan getting nationalized in 19 BBY.

So you would think Imperalization of Commerce already happened 19 years earlier with the birth of Empire instead of it being recently in A New Hope.

Granted aside a few broad strokes of the backstory that become the Prequels like the rise of the emperor and Anakin becoming Vader from a volcano.

Lucas didn't write the Prequels afterall this deleted scene is from 1977 Lucas didn’t had the hindsight yet so it could be either this deleted scene is non-canon and Lucas change his mind when it come to the exact timing of imperialization of Commerce when he is making the prequels or maybe like how A New Hope deleted scenes despite being a goofy looking back.(Which was the reason why the Biggs and Luke scene was cut in the editing room of A New Hope. Still my friend loved the scene as to him it’s the most explicit political scene in the movie, and imo, give a way more clearer picture of the galaxy under the Empire than that scene with Tarkin stating that Palpatine dissolved the Imperial Senate.) such as Luke's extra friends Camie and Laze being still canon (they were the couple in episode 2 of Book of Boba Fett.) so this scene about Commerce could still be canon despite being 19 years after the end of the Clone Wars. Regardless it is fascinating to look at these given how things turned and with the context of the Prequel Trilogy we have now.

but what do you all think could the whole commerce getting imperialized shortly after the battle of Scarif but before the dissolution of the Senate be canon. if so how does it fit with the current lore given what we know where the Republic and Empire nationalize the banks at the end of the clone wars. Could this new policy in the deleted scene is a result from the PORD or maybe the empire was simply naturalizing businesses that were important to the planet Tatooine especially to people like Biggs’s family?

Otherwise, let me know when the comments below?

So Snoke calls Hux 'rabid cur' -a cur is a mixed-breed dog- in front of Kylo. The definition seems to be as apt if applied to Kylo, if not more: ''too much Vader in him' (TFA)/'too much of your father's heart in you, young Solo' (TLJ): a Vader/Solo 'cur'.

But Snoke may have literally been a 'cur' himself. Let's say there was an original host, original name unknown (but maybe Snoke, why not): but not a clone. Then he was modified, hybridized, by the sith, and became 'our' Snoke. Then the modified Snoke was cloned. And that's the one we have in the films. (This would have taken place during the (Tenebrous?)/Plagueis/Palpatine era. According to Serkis, Snoke was some 200 years old)

In that case, he would have been himself a 'cur'. Such a cur 'properly manipulated' (by Palpatine), could be, and was, a sharp tool.

Who was the original host? In the comic he says 'I was not born Snoke. I became Snoke'. Just like Kylo not being born Kylo.

Was he good once? It is notable that he uses the (in these films) jedi word 'balance', only with the polarity inverted (Snoke's 'darkness rises and light to meet it' vs Luke's 'balance. Powerful light, powerful darkness'. The natural for Snoke was darkness; for Luke, and for us, light), and that he doesn't call Luke 'weak' in the Kylo comic, but 'misguided'. Well he was misguided, but the balance idea seems to still be there.

Had he been a jedi originally, or at least saw things like them? His section in one of the VDs is called 'Heart Of Darkness', and Kurtz (from Conrad's book) comes to mind. Maybe he came from the Republic/Jedi ('Europe') to 'Africa' (the UR) or was sent in order to civilize and build 'light': and then turned, swallowed by the jungle, the darkness, the native air, and tried to return as a King - tried to interfere with the sith and their plans, who got rid of him and then used him as a cur/puppet.

In this version, the Tarkin Doctrine would definitely not be "Rule by Fear" as it was in canon, and this version of the Empire would absolutely not have anything to do with the Death Star, having never constructed it to begin with.

What I mean is that so much of the Empire's aesthetic was based on Fascism and fear, one of the most iconic villain aesthetics in fiction. But in a hypothetical story where the Empire genuinely sought to bring law and order, and were actually ruled by an order of Sith who served the Force and wanted to benefit the people, wouldn't ever think to collude with pirates and criminal syndicates like the Hutts. I think that this version of the Empire's aesthetic instead of being "Rule by fear through intimidation and overwhelming power" would be built around "Inspire through heroism and unite through justice for all."

I already have the Stromtrooper equivalents being designed after Medieval European Knights, with different helmets for different variants. But what would Star Destroyers and TIE Fighters from this version of the Empire even look like?

So, one of the most notable lingering questions I have from The Phantom Menace is that, when Qui-Gon is arguing with Panaka over going to Tatooine to repair the starship, he explicitly states that there are systems controlled by the Trade Federation which means that it's better to work under Hutt territory as the Hutts have no knowledge of Padmé whereas the Trade Federation is clearly seeking her. Obi-Wan also comments that the Trade Federation lacks a presence there and it's "out of the way", implying most nearby systems to Naboo are either UNDER the control of the Federation or have a presence in them in some way.

Now, for the longest time I maintained the idea that the Federation controlled parts of the Mid-to-Outer Rims which they held on to illegally as part of their general galactic monopoly. I based this on various statements in some of the old guidebooks from AotC that corporations essentially owned parts of, if not entire planets. From the AotC Visual Dictionary / Complete Visual Dictionary:

The Trade Federation controls freighters, ports, and way stations on the galactic commerce routes. Its power is profitably supported by a droid army, which operates under the guise of "securing the lines of trade". Trade officials appear immune to prosecution for their brutal intimidation.

The Corporate Alliance is the negotiating body for the galaxy's major commercial operations. As head of the largest corporation, Passel Argente commands the office of Alliance Magistrate. Argente has risen to great heights of wealth and power as chairman of the merchandising conglomerate called Lethe. Workers and consumers are encouraged to identify with the company in a near-religious way.

When Alliance corporations face resistance to their development plans, Tank Droids are used to clear the way. The wheel-like machines are widely feared.

The Commerce Guild seeks to control any large corporation involved in raw materials. Increasingly, it enforces tribute payments with its private army. The Guild maximizes profit by stifling alternative technologies and bribing corrupt officials and senators to control market forces with tariffs.

Commerce Guild army droids are built with striding legs for roadless terrain on rugged mining worlds. These destructive droids hunt down operations attempting to evade tribute payments.

Hailfire Droids roll rapidly into action to discourage those who might default on IG Banking Clan loans. Murderous explosive missile launchers dispatch "late payment notices".

Like the terrifying droideka, these military-grade robots violate Republic regulations on private security forces, but the Neimoidians have too much influence to fear the galactic courts.

And from the New Essential Guides to Droids and Vehicles/Vessels:

The Guild controlled mines on thousands of worlds, but mining ventures that had been "persuaded" to join weren't always willing to pay their monthly dues. Dwarf spider droids, which preceded the development of the much larger homing spider droids, owe their small size to the necessity of operating inside of cramped mining tunnels.

Commerce Guild president Shu Mai used the first batch of dwarf spider droids to track down negligent guild members and remind them where their loyalties lay.

Like the AAT and other Trade Federation military vehicles, the droid starfighter endured rigorous testing before its deployment during the invasion of Naboo. The starfighters saw combat during raids against Degan pirates in the Elrood sector and were instrumental in defeating Nym's army on Lok.

However, reviewing old media, there's also a tendency, as shown in the first quote about the droidekas, to note that the Trade Federation Army hadn't been used until Naboo for the first time, beyond minor "exercises" and "training programs". From the TPM Visual Dictionary:

The shadowy figure of Darth Sidious has incited key individuals within the Neimoidian Inner Circle to take drastic measures in pursuit of profit.

The wealthy Trade Federation has quietly gone far beyond any other group in assembling a massive army composed of ghostly, emotionless droid soldiers that are ready to do their masters' bidding without a touch of emotion or mercy. Their deployment on Naboo heralds the end of an age of peace and security in the galaxy.

Wargame exercises and action against bandits threatening trade routes tested all aspects of the Trade Federation army, ensuring that the force is completely invincible... or so it seems.

Although Trade Federation war craft have only been in exercises and skirmishes before their deployment on Naboo, their minimum-cost paint is already badly chipped.

Neimoidians are cautious by nature and the Trade Federation has always been careful to hide its acts of extortion and manipulation behind lies and protests of good faith. Their open aggression against Naboo is new territory for them, and both Gunray and Haako are uneasy about the possibility of escalation.

This lines up consistently with the TPM Cross-Sections book which routinely notes every vehicle used in the Invasion of Naboo was designed specifically for that purpose as part of a secret army rather than being a preexisting force. But then you also have this:

Droidekas are commonly known as destroyer droids in many parts of the galaxy.

The deployment of droidekas at the Battle of Naboo marked the first widespread use of the robotic killers, though small batches of them had previously trickled out from Colla IV and triggered several public atrocities.

Something which is also notable by the fact Qui-Gon actively recognizes them. One COULD argue that since these are provided by the Colicoids, other factions have used them so indeed the Jedi know they exist. However, there is also the fact the Essential Guide to Droids states this about the early B1/OOM models:

The first combat deployment [of the B1/OOM unit] came during the Battle of Naboo in 32 BBY [...] Baktoid, a member of the Techno Union, was contracted by the Trade Federation to build battle droids as part of a secret military buildup to the Naboo invasion.

Now, this DOES state "combat", however at the same time it's odd that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan don't react to the presence of these models as well as Vulture Droids in the Saak'ak's hangar bay. It's also odd that the other corporations are using droids in order to enforce their rule throughout the galaxy while the Trade Federation hides their strength. This I can only really see working two ways:

1. The Trade Federation is the first to militarize in this form and the later usage of droids by the other corporations is a mass movement in the ten year timespan between TPM and AotC. But then, if that's the case, then what drove this mass militarization movement if Separatist sympathies hadn't been brewing fully until Dooku's Raxus Address? Can Palpatine really manage all these corporations militarizing?
2. This is a preexisting thing, but the Trade Federation is doing it at a scale never seen before, hence an "army" rather than a "security force". However, how small can a "security force" that controls multiple systems and extorts whole planets from their money be that it's that much smaller than the army that directly attacks Naboo? Or is the difference concentration and direct aggression?

And then we get to Cloak of Deception. Cloak of Deception is odd in that a lot of the things it directly introduces about the Trade Federation seem to directly contradict lore both prior and after the book's release. Now, on the Trade Federation, the book has passages akin to this one:

Qui-Gon folded his thick arms across his chest. “The Nebula Front speaks for many worlds in the Mid and Outer Rims, which contest the prohibitive practices and strong-arm tactics of the Trade Federation. Some of those worlds were originally colonized by species who fled the civilized repression of the Core. Fiercely independent, they want no part of the Republic. And yet, in order to trade, they are forced to do business with consortiums like the Federation. Worlds that have attempted to ship with other enterprises have found themselves cut off from trade entirely.”

However, a curious aspect in the book is that the Trade Federation is actually led by a diverse array of species forming the Trade Federation Directorate, of which only Gunray serves as a Neimoidian. It isn't until the Eriadu Summit Incident that Neimoidians get a completely dominant state on the company. This directly seems to contradict the TPM Visual Dictionary, copied word for word in the later Complete Visual Dictionary (released five years after Cloak of Deception):

As adults, Neimoidians are known for their exceptional organizing abilities. Driven by their intense desire for possessions, they have built the largest commercial corporation in the galaxy. Led by Neimoidians, the Trade Federation is a labyrinthine organization of bureaucrats and trade officials from many worlds that has insinuated itself throughout the galaxy.

Notably, Cloak of Deception also establishes the timeline that it's circa six months before TPM that the Trade Federation takes its first steps to acquire their droid army, a move led by Darth Sidious:

Prototype war machines, the gargantuan landing craft, the monstrous multitroop transports, and the sleekly styled tanks had been designed and built by Haor Chall Engineering and Baktoid Armor, whose alien representatives were standing in full view of Gunray and beaming with pride.

To Haor Chall, especially, design perfection amounted to a religious edict.

“Behold, Viceroy,” Haor Chall’s insectoid representative said, gesturing with all four arms to the closest transport, whose circular deployment hatch, hinged at the top, was just swinging open.

Gunray watched in amazement as a rack telescoped from the hatch and dozens of battle droids unfolded themselves before his eyes.

“And this, Viceroy,” Baktoid’s winged representative added.

Gunray’s red eyes moved back to the landing craft in time to see a dozen airhooks soar toward the upper reaches of the hangar arm. Blade-thin vehicles with twin foot-rests and top-mounted blasters, all were piloted by droids, whose backward leaning postures made them appear to be hanging on to the slender handlebars for dear life.

Gunray was speechless.

While he had never seen their like, in each of the prototypes he recognized elements of the very machines the Trade Federation had employed for centuries in transporting natural resources and other commodities. In the fuselage of the double-winged landing craft, for example, he recognized the Federation’s narrow ore barge. But Haor Chall had set the fuselage on a pedestal and capped it with two enormous wings, presumably kept from sagging by powerful tensor fields.

Despite the animistic look Baktoid had imparted to the troop transports, Gunray recognized the Trade Federation’s own repulsorlift cargo pod, built on an even more gargantuan scale. As for the folding battle droids and the Single Trooper Aerial Platforms, they were simply variations of Baktoid’s security droids, and Longspur and Alloi’s Bespin airhooks.

But one thing was clear: everything he was being shown spoke less to spaceborne defense than to groundside deployment. The realization was more than Gunray could absorb; more than he wished to absorb.

“As you have probably observed, Viceroy,” Haor Chall’s representative was saying, “the Trade Federation already has most of the raw materials needed to create your army.” He motioned to the representative from Baktoid. “In partnership with Baktoid, we can convert your security and worker droids to battle models, and your barges and cargo pods to landing craft.”

“More units, less money,” the Baktoid representative added.

“Best of all, since the components of the landing crafts can be stored in various places—wings, fuselages, and pedestals—they can be assembled at a moment’s notice. You could place one landing craft in each of a hundred freighters, or a hundred landing craft in but one of your freighters—for singularly thorny circumstances. Either way, none who come aboard to inspect your freighters will comprehend what they are seeing. As our mutual friend says, you will have an army without giving the appearance of having an army.”

“Mutual friend,” Rune Haako muttered, just loudly enough for Gunray to hear. “When Darth Sidious says do this, it is performed.”

“We enjoy dealing with Neimoidians,” Baktoid’s representative stepped forward to say, “because of the enthusiasm and awe you demonstrate for our creations. Therefore, we have other weapons in mind for you: starfighters that will no longer have to rely on droid pilots, but will themselves answer to a central control computer.

“You may even wish to contact the Colicoids of Colla IV, who are rumored to have developed a combat droid capable of rolling to its destinations.” The alien gestured broadly to the immense hangar. “Perfect for covering the vast distances inside your freighters, and defending against boarding parties.”

Gunray heard Dofine swallow audibly, but, once more, it was Haako who spoke.

“This is madness,” he said, lowering his voice and limping closer to the mechno-chair. “Are we merchants, or are we would-be conquerors?”

“You heard Darth Sidious,” Gunray hissed. “These weapons will ensure that we remain merchants. They are our guarantee that groups like the Nebula Front or mercenaries like Captain Cohl will never again risk going against us. Ask Commander Dofine. He’ll tell you.”

“Darth Sidious keeps us in servile fearfulness,” Haako said, blinking repeatedly.

“What can we do, otherwise? Instead of honoring our request for additional defenses, the senate threatens us with taxation. We need to take matters into our own hands if we are to protect our cargos. Or would you have us continue to lose ships to terrorists, in addition to losing profits to taxation?”

“But the other members of the directorate—?”

“For the time being, they are to not to know anything of this. We will apprise them of these things gradually.”

“And only if necessary.”

“Yes,” Gunray said. “Only if necessary.”

This has some major issues. If the Trade Federation only now is pushing for this army, so close to TPM, and they weren't even dominated by Neimoidians beforehand, how much control of the galaxy did they have back then? Is the new movement to acquire planets something recent? Because the book does not note it when it creates the buildup to the Trade Federation's attack on Naboo through the passing of Senate Resolution BR-0371 (the route taxation bill). Did the Neimoidians now acquire droidekas after this? Because if so, and if only "rumored", then that seems to directly damage the statements from other sources including the Visual Dictionaries that droidekas are quite well known and feared galactically to where the Jedi recognize them. And how come Gunray and his cronies are so fearful and unwilling to do this, almost desiring to not be involved at all? It ought to be noted that even the film shows Gunray only fearing reprisal when seemingly inevitable but otherwise not regretting his deal with Sidious, in fact pridefully calling victory over Naboo and later collaborating with Sidious up to the Clone Wars. It also seems odd that the Trade Federation would be able to hide the acquisition of such a grand scale army in six months when they don't have their own planets to create factories on, meaning transactions would be actively visible.

I'd really enjoy some help on the position of the Trade Federation, their galactic control, creation of their army and just general inconsistencies throughout these details. They're very messy. Apologies if I forgot something obvious.

There were multiple factions, but I think the Techno Union might be the most powerful as they developed the most dangerous weapons for the Separatists.

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Ah, the Ewoks. Usually these critters are seen as the beginning of Star Wars declining, and the sentiment that wookiees would've functioned better in their role isn't uncommon. I, however, disagree, and would like to explain why.

To start, we need to examine the narrative role of the Ewoks. Vietcong allegory aside, the Ewoks' main role isn't to win the battle with the Empire's legion, but to tip the scales and allow the rebels to get back into the fight. They contribute and take their own casualties, but the battle on the ground is ultimately won when Chewie plays GTA with the last walker and Han tricks the imperials into leaving the bunker. Thematically and logically, Ewoks only function as wild card *because* they're highly primitive. They're the ultimate underdogs that foil Palpatine because he either wouldn't know about them, or would arrogantly dismiss them as irrelevant.

Wookiees don't function on any of these fronts. They're big ass furry dudes who can rip your arm off with ease. Very much the opposite of underdogs. They're also not primitive at all, given Chewbacca is literally the team's engineer. If we ignore the lore (established even back then, I believe) that their homworld was Kashyyyk, and assume that they had a colony on Endor, it becomes illogical that Palpatine wouldn't factor in the rebels teaming up with them. And even if you suggest that they could be enslaved there for whatever reason, there's still the risk of the rebels freeing them and recruiting them.

This isn't saying that the Ewoks are by any means perfect, and it's fair if they don't function for some. Making the theoretically compelling "primitive wildcard" a bunch of teddy bears was indeed a bit much on George's behalf, and the ground battle of Endor was a bit goofy, especially compared to how tense the duel on the second Death Star and the space battle were. It frankly started a bit of a tonal whiplash problem that continued with the Battles of Naboo and Geonosis, and was thankfully gone by RotS.

The whole idea behind Wild Space is that it's an area of space without hyperlanes, and thus traversing it takes ages, right?

So how did everyone in the Alliance -- Republic, Sith, Mandalorian, and everyone in between -- manage to consistently traverse between Odessen and Zakuul and the rest of the galaxy?

With Zakuul, the answer's easier. Iokath tech that was embedded into the Eternal Fleet was more advanced than anything the Republic or Empire had access to.

How much Oversight did the Moffs actually have?

Like if you were an Imperial Moff governing some average sector in the Mid-Rim that doesn't draw special attention, and you keep as far away from Force Stuff and the Inquisitorious as you can, and you achieve all the economic goals set for your sector while stamping out rebel activity, how much do your superiors care how you do it?

If you keep your Sector under Control, would anyone care that you have small shield generators added to the TIEs in your Sector Group? Or that you build yourself a big palace? Or that you establish a militia for policing purposes which recruits near-humans like mirialans or pantorans?

Abstract (TL;DR)

For decades, standard galactic historiography has evaluated the Skywalker Saga through the lens of moral dualism or political power dynamics. This paper proposes a unified, physics-grounded alternative: The Closed Circuit Thesis. By evaluating the Force as an objective, high-amperage bio-metaphysical field subject to laws of thermodynamics, conductance, and cellular receptivity, we demonstrate that the entire narrative arc, from the creation of the Grand Army of the Republic to the solitary figure standing on Tatooine in 35 ABY, represents a single, continuous biological harvest. The Sith line did not fall at Endor, nor was it defeated at Exegol. Rather, the Sidious lineage successfully executed a full bio-parasitic takeover, digesting the Skywalker asset, exhausting its kinetic voltage, and adopting its identity.

Introduction: The Thermodynamic Reality of the Force

The fundamental error in pre-Empire Jedi theology was treating the dark side as a spiritual defect rather than an aggressive somatic pathology: the metaphysical equivalent of trying to negotiate stage-four cancer into remission through quiet meditation. Midi-chlorians are not magical conduits; they are sub-cellular biological transducers capable of converting raw cosmic field potential into physical work.

Channeling this field generates catastrophic entropic friction, waste heat, and cellular degradation within the organic vessel. Consequently, the Banite Rule of Two was never an ideological or philosophical dogma; it was a strict operational necessity.

Unshielded Cosmic Amperage + Unregulated Biological Host = Somatic Blowout

If dark-side voltage is dispersed across hundreds of Sith acolytes (as in the Brotherhood of Darkness), the field dilutes into useless noise. Conversely, if high-amperage dark potential is concentrated into a single, uninsulated mortal vessel without auxiliary grounding, the vessel suffers rapid necrotic liquefaction. Every historical event in the saga flows from this single constraint: How does a sovereign dark core sustain ultra-high voltage without destroying its host body?

Section 1: The Prequels & The Rule of Two (Bleed Resistors and Step-Down Transformers)

To maintain maximum dark-side potential without risking somatic collapse, Darth Sidious constructed a multi-tiered electrical grid disguised as a galactic civil war:

• Sovereign Core (Darth Sidious): Generates and directs the primary high-voltage dark-side current from within the shadows of the Republic Senate.
• Secondary Surge Protector (Count Dooku): Channels the massive operational friction and geopolitical noise generated across the galactic war.
• Step-Down Transformers (Maul, Ventress, Inquisitorius): Inductive bleed resistors designed to vent localized combat feedback and kinetic noise before it can reflect back into the sovereign core.

The Aristocratic Surge Protector

Count Dooku of Serenno was never intended to inherit the Sith Empire. His role was strictly defined as an aristocratic surge protector. During the Clone Wars, the massive geopolitical and emotional friction generated across the galaxy created an enormous surge of dark-side potential. Sidious channeled this operational noise through Dooku.

Dooku's engineered obsolescence is starkly demonstrated aboard the Invisible Hand (Revenge of the Sith). The moment Anakin Skywalker (a high-conductance, unshielded biological superconductor) proved his output capability by severing Dooku's hands, the surge protector had served its purpose. Sidious’s command to execute him was simply the opening of a circuit breaker, shedding the degraded temporary component to plug the primary grid directly into Skywalker.

"He was too dangerous to be kept alive." (Anakin Skywalker)

"It is only natural. He cut off your arm, and you wanted revenge." (Darth Sidious)

Inductive Bleed Resistors

Inquisitors and secondary apprentices served an identical architectural function: inductive step-down transformers. By allowing secondary agents to draw small, regulated amounts of dark voltage, Sidious vented dangerous operational noise out of the primary Banite core. They absorbed the violent, localized feedback loops of galactic combat, keeping the Emperor’s central biological vessel cold, stable, and concealed within the Republic Senate.

Section 2: Somatic Insulation, House Naberrie, and Grounding the Core

Anakin Skywalker represented an unprecedented bio-electrical anomaly: an unshielded nuclear reactor of Force potential. However, a raw energy source without a stabilizing medium is inherently self-destructive.

The Epigenetic Cooling Jacket

This solves the long-standing community debate regarding the "genetic nullity" of House Naberrie. Why would the galaxy's most powerful Force-sensitive select a partner with zero detectable M-count?

• Paternal Core (Anakin Skywalker): Unshielded, high-voltage biological superconductor.
• Thermal Heat-Sink (Padmé Amidala): Zero-receptivity somatic tissue providing essential biological insulation against fetal burnout.
• Stabilized Offspring (Luke & Leia): High-conductance parallel lines brought safely to term without gestational necrosis.

Had Anakin conceived offspring with a Force-sensitive partner of equal genetic density, the combined, uninsulated M-count within the womb would have caused catastrophic fetal cellular burnout. Padmé Amidala’s somatic biology functioned as an epigenetic cooling jacket. Her non-receptive tissue provided the essential thermal and biological insulation required to absorb the severe physical friction of Anakin’s genetic material, allowing Luke and Leia to safely gestate to term.

Resonance and Physical Grounding

The identical conductance of the twin offspring is evident in their instant spatial resonance across vast distances, such as Cloud City (The Empire Strikes Back) and the Ewok Village (Return of the Jedi). They functioned as matched parallel lines on the same frequency.

This mechanics-first framework sheds new light on Darth Vader’s ultimate act aboard the Second Death Star (Return of the Jedi).

When Sidious unleashed his full, unshielded lightning amperage against Luke, the young Jedi’s organic frame was seconds away from complete cellular breakdown. Vader did not defeat the Emperor through superior martial technique; he converted his own cybernetic chassis into a physical electrical ground.

By hoisting Sidious into the air, Vader redirected the massive, unshielded dark-side current through his own mechanical body, blowing out his life-support systems and earthing the terminal energy surge down the reactor shaft to protect the remaining live line (Luke).

Section 3: Radiance vs. Kinematics (The Physics of Mandalorian Warfare)

To understand how non-Force-sensitive warriors consistently engage Jedi in combat, we must separate two distinct physical phenomena: radiant energy dissipation and gross spatial vector displacement.

The Two Pillars of Mandalorian Doctrine

• Passive Radiant Protection (Faraday Armor): Beskar outer shell disperses plasma bolts, blaster fire, and Force lightning across surface area, keeping internal vitals cold. Provides zero telekinetic mass shielding.
• Active Neurological Sabotage (Cortex Disruption): Sonic pulses, hypoxic flamethrowers, and solid slugthrowers engineered to break synaptic focus and prevent telekinetic targeting.

Beskar as a Faraday Cage

Beskar steel operates as a physical skin-depth conductor. When struck by thermal plasma (blaster bolts) or ionized energy (Force lightning), the dense metallurgical chassis disperses the incoming radiant charge instantly across its exterior surface area. Like a commercial airliner absorbing a direct lightning strike, the hull heats up, but the interior payload remains shielded.

However, armor offers zero protection against gross spatial vector displacement (telekinesis). Force-thrown objects or spatial grips act on total physical mass, not surface charge. Dropping a shielded airliner off a cliff still crushes the passengers inside.

Neurological Sabotage

Because Mandalorians cannot shield their mass from telekinetic displacement, their combat doctrine focuses entirely on motor-cortex disruption (The Mandalorian). To exert spatial vector control over an object, a Jedi requires absolute neurological focus and motor-cortex coherence. Mandalorian weaponry is engineered to induce immediate neurological flutter:

1. Sonic Disruptors: Send high-decibel acoustic shocks directly into the inner ear, destroying vestibular balance and rendering spatial targeting impossible.
2. Aerosol Flamethrowers: Rapidly consume local oxygen, triggering the body's involuntary autonomic suffocation reflexes and breaking cognitive concentration.
3. Solid Slugthrowers: When a solid lead bullet impacts a lightsaber's plasma blade, it does not deflect. The high thermal gradient instantly vaporizes the lead into a cloud of boiling, superheated liquid metal shrapnel that continues along its kinetic trajectory straight into the Jedi's eyes and face.

By shattering the wielder’s neurological focus, the Mandalorian neutralizes the incoming kinetic attack before the Jedi’s brain can execute the spatial command.

Section 4: Project Necromancer & Telomere Degradation

Following his physical displacement at Endor, Sidious’s consciousness was forced into a series of synthetic flash-clones on Mount Tantiss and Exegol (The Bad Batch / The Rise of Skywalker). Here, the hard limits of cellular biology came into violent collision with dark-side voltage:

• Original DNA to Flash Clone: Organelle telomere decay causes copier-static loss of Force-docking ports.
• High-Amperage Input: Feeding dark voltage into unshielded synthetic tissue triggers battery corrosion and instant cellular liquefaction.

Copier Static and Battery Corrosion

Attempting to clone a Force-receptive host introduces severe organelle telomere decay. Copying the sub-cellular docking ports that catch the Force is functionally identical to repeatedly passing a printout through a digital copier: with each iteration, the resolution degrades into pixelated static.

Without functional cellular docking ports, attempting to channel Sidious’s massive dark-side voltage into a flash-clone resulted in instant battery corrosion. The uninsulated current degraded the synthetic membranes, causing the clone husks to rot and liquify inside their tanks.

The Biological Coolant Solution

To arrest this rapid necrotic breakdown, Imperial scientists under Project Necromancer required metabolic stabilizers:

• Metabolic Coolant (Grogu & Omega): Pure, non-degraded genetic scaffolding harvested and injected to prevent synthetic clone husks from melting down under raw dark amperage.
• Structural Shell (Dathan, Rey's Father): Dathan survived because his Force-docking receptors were entirely dead. Because he possessed zero Force receptivity, Sidious’s dark voltage could not run through him. His dead receptors spared him from necrotic rot, allowing him to grow into a healthy, ordinary human shell capable of natural reproduction.

When Dathan reproduced naturally, the clean structural shell combined with a natural genetic line, producing Rey: a host vessel that possessed both pristine, non-degraded cellular docking ports and full structural stability.

Section 5: Exegol, The Dyad, and The Tatooine Reversal

The climax on Exegol (The Rise of Skywalker) represents the ultimate clash between Sidious’s conscious tactical ego and the underlying laws of autonomic biology.

The Autonomic Dyad

Sidious viewed his return through the lens of a corporate takeover: a conscious ego seizing a new host chassis. He was completely blind to the fact that Rey and Ben Solo formed a Force Dyad: two severed ends of a single high-voltage circuit.

When they stood together on Exegol, their biology snapped together automatically. The resulting circuit opened a massive, unshielded energy arc that caught Sidious completely unprepared.

The Parasitic Takeover of Tatooine

Recognizing the raw power of this reconnecting circuit, the decaying Sidious husk did not fight the arc; it plugged into it. Sidious initiated a full bio-parasitic drain, siphoning the pristine biological voltage out of Ben Solo’s Skywalker core to permanently reboot his own biological vessel.

When Ben Solo collapsed and faded into the Force, the Skywalker bloodline was officially tapped dry. Its entire lineage, from Anakin's unshielded core to Ben Solo's terminal drain, had served as nothing more than a multi-generational fuel cell to power the Sidious lineage into permanent stability:

1. Skywalker Fuel Cell Exhausted: Ben Solo dissolves into the Force.
2. Discarded Tools Buried: Skywalker and Organa lightsabers buried deep in the sand.
3. Lineage Theft Complete: The surviving Sidious genetic vessel claims the stolen name "Rey Skywalker".

Consider the final scene of the saga on Tatooine (The Rise of Skywalker):

Passerby: "Who are you?"

Rey: "Rey."

Passerby: "Rey who?"

(Rey looks toward the twin suns, sensing the ghosts of Luke and Leia)

Rey: "Rey Skywalker."

From an in-universe bio-electrical perspective, this is not a moment of heroic adoption. It is the victory lap of a successful parasitic corporate takeover:

• The Skywalker battery has been drained to absolute zero and discarded.
• The ancestral tools (the lightsabers) are buried deep beneath the desert sand, permanently decommissioned.
• The surviving genetic vessel of Darth Sidious stands in the sunlight, wearing the stolen corporate name of its digested rival in full view of the galaxy.

Palpatine didn't lose. The Sith circuit simply closed, digested its fuel source, and inherited the galaxy.

In Canon, the revelation about her being Vader's daughter was integral in Bloodline (28ABY) and destroyed her political career.

However, does it also happen in the Legends? If it did, exactly when did it happen? I heard it happens vaguely after the Dark Empire series, but I couldn't find the exact time point. Is there a book or comic that deals with this scandal? Does this revelation have meaningful consequences for her? When did her children know about it?

Speaking of Leia, what about Luke? When does the galaxy know about his relationship with Vader? Does this revelation occur at the same time as Leia's?

As bad as the Empire undoubtedly was; at least membership of the imperial stormtrooper corps was mainly conscription based. In several media like the Mandalorian and Jedi Survivor, we see that the stormtroopers act like normal soldiers in our world do. They complain about their postings, gossip with each other, plan on getting something to eat after their shifts, things like that. We also know that recruits that join the imperial academies consist of mainly young people from backwater outer rim worlds who join either out a desire to leave their shitty planets and be part of the imperial dream or mostly just because they think the armor's cool.

But with the First Order; pretty much all of their soldiers are mindless killers willing to lay down their lives for people that couldn't give less of a shit about them. In spite of how people feel about the sequels in general; You got to admit that the FO's training program is seriously fucked up. The way they kidnap children from their families and brainwash them into serving and dying for a glorified terrorist regime is probably one of the darkest elements of the new movies and I wish we learned more about it.

So if you absolutely had to choose; Would you rather be a stormtrooper for the Empire or the First Order?​​

If General Grievous survived ROTS and was in a New Hope, if he first showed up on Mos Eisley, would he try to blend in and what would he try to do immediately?

What if he came across Kenobi too?

How would Grievous also engage with Imperials in Mos Eisley fighting wise?

This Grievous has retrieved Gold Bladed Lightsabers too, he keeps a white lie and shares that non force sensitive droids with Lightsabers use gold Lightsabers as tools for heavy gear work because blue and green signify Jedi and can cause too much confusion in contrast is the cover up story. (Meanwhile in reality he's looking for Vader, Sidious and maybe Kenobi)

Grievous also paints his own armor Gold to look like a standard mechanic based Droid instead of looking like "some kind of warlord" monster.

As the title asks, if the Republic were to prepare itself for a much longer conflict with the Separatists, who do you think would be the best candidate to fill the role of clone template?

Just had the idea since remembering the episodes of TCW showing concern about the quality of the clones being produce and how the lack of access to fresh Jango DNA was causing the lack of clone quality.

I just read the 2015 Star Wars comic arc Hope Dies and it seems like Vader would've won had he shown up with Interdictor cruisers, or had the SSD Executor been equipped with its own.

don't mean a Dark Jedi who betrays the Jedi Order by leaving to pursue the Dark Side. I mean a Dark Sider who still sees themselves as a faithful Jedi, like a zealot who wants to impose Jedi values on the galaxy and believes the Jedi High Council should rule instead of the Galactic Senate, or an institutionalist willing to take extreme measures to defeat the Sith.

Just realized that Jedi would have a relatively easy time taking care of a baby compared to a non-force sensitive.

Telepathy would allow them to understand what the baby needs at any given time, whether they're hungry, tired or sick. And would probably allow them to communicate with the baby on a limited level, potentially accelerating the child's language acquisition and cognitive development in general. Jedi raised children might learn to have essentially full conversations telepathically before they learn to speak verbally.

Wonder if any books or comics mention this

I think it'd be interesting to see a story where a third party organization made of disillusioned ex-Jedi and ex-Siths plots to try and eradicate both Light *and* Dark side users for the sake of a lasting peace in the universe. Even if it turns out badly, I think the internal drama would intriguing as members fight amongst themselves, even as dedicated to entropy as they are.

The leader could be an ex-Jedi general or something, fighting with himself over the trauma of the past as he seeks to make sure nobody else ever has to go through what he has (something something, accidentally killed members of his village or family or something, or could have saved them but got caught up in the heat of the battle elsewhere, a real Kratos story), with a lieutenant who's a Sith making backroom deals and betraying her colleagues, pretending to hate what the Sith have to offer, when in reality she's using the organization for a power play vs the Sith Lords at the helm, or something.

These Grey Jedi would not be both Light and Dark users, each individual would be one or the other, but it'd be soooo fun to see the rationalities and philosophies play out on the battlefield as they play antagonists for both the Sith and Jedi of whatever time this takes place during. I really wanna see the Grey Jedi just doing the mutually-assured destruction argument while fighting with both, and then the big reveal of "there's no way we could keep up with both the Sith and the Jedi, so we decided the final resort it was. Both have to be destroyed, for lasting peace. One cannot exist without the other, so neither must continue."

In my opinion, lol. Thoughts?

There always seemed to be an antagonistic relationship between Anakin and the council members but did Anakin try to reach out to them to repair the relationship or was it always the council members high handing him?

Just what the title says. I'm a SWTOR roleplayer, and I'd like help from lore nerds on how to build a specific kind of planet.

If the answer is yes, I'll have followup questions!

If the answer is no, I'd ask for someone to point me to a subreddit that can help.

I always assumed Greedo and Jabba spoke the same language, Huttese, but I just learned that Rodian is its own language. That said, the Behind the Scenes sections on the Wookieepedia pages for Huttese and Rodian (Language) both reference the same scene with Greedo in ANH, and its Quechua influences. The Appearances section for Huttese cites RotJ as its first appearance, though.

The Rodian page does say that it shares similarities with Huttese; could it be to the extent that they’re mutually intelligible? But apparently Greedo appears in an episode of the Clone Wars and he speaks to Jabba in Basic! Aah, how do we make sense of this?? lol

Since Surik is a black hole in the force, what happens if she enters the world between worlds?

https://imgur.com/a/imperial-rank-guide-v3-uTeIuFm

This is built on and all made possible by u/King_Doran's Version 2, so credit to him for his V1 and V2. This covers 19 BBY to 0 BBY and was made all in Figma.

There are three charts:

• Version 3: The full chart. Keeping Doran's gap filling where canon says nothing
• Stormtrooper and Army Enlisted Profile: The Stormtrooper Corps rank ladder in armor and in uniform, the titles layered on rank, and the Army's enlisted ranks
• Version 3 Core: All of the plaques come directly from the Rogue One David Crossman costume chart or were seen on screen before Yavin, + ranks named in the Tarkin novel. The two assumed ranks makes are footnoted

What changed from Doran's V2 (can be found here: https://imgur.com/33JzhqJ), and why:

• ISB added from Andor Seasons 1 and 2: Supervisors, Attendants, Partagaz, Yularen.
  • I just rewatched Andor, and that gave enough for me to justify building the ISB column
• Fleet and Sector Command Staff merged into one Sector Command column using Navy ranks. Lyste calls them "Sector Command staff" in Rebels, and the officers seen on it (Brunson, Slavin, Titus) are all Navy. Brunson and Slavin are Captains wearing 3 red over 3 blue, so that plaque is now Captain, not LT
• Moff uses the canon plaque. Isdain wears 6 blue over 3 red, 3 gold in Tales of the Empire which is same as Tarkin
• Grand Admiral moved to Navy Line and Grand General to Army Line, since there's no separate fleet staff column anymore
• Navy Operations Admiral now matches Titus (4 red, 2 gold), who Doran based the column on
• LT General and Major General are now Vice General and Brigadier General, the Imperial Army general ranks named in canon books
• Captain-LT is now Junior Captain, an Imperial rank Piett held under Tarkin
• Starfighter Corps: Second LT Commander moved above Captain (Shadow Fall), Senior LT added (TIE Fighter comic)
• Columns reordered so the ISB sits next to the security branches it shares plaques with

Speculation stuff that I kept:

• Vice Admiral stays 1 blue, 5 red. Canon has Vice and Rear Admiral with the same plaque (Rampart), and no military would do that. The Core edition shows this inconsistency though.
• Same reasoning for Security Major and Colonel.
• Anything assumed is footnoted on the chart, like Yularen as ISB Director.

three things I'd like to get opinions on:

• Should the chart follow canon's shared Vice and Rear Admiral plaque, or keep them distinct like a real military would?
• Is Yularen being ISB Director a fair assumption, or is there confirmed someone above him?
• Ensign and Second Lieutenant were historically (British Empire) the same grade. Does it make sense for the Empire to have both?

The general use of the term "Sith" is used to describe individuals, mostly Sith Lords, as if it is part of their identity. Darth Sidious is a "Sith", Vader is a "Sith", etc. Just as how one Jedi, whether a master, apprentice/padawan, or knight is simply called a "Jedi".

There are two questions to this post. The first one is...when is someone called a "Sith", and when are they not? Usually, both pre-Banite and post-Banite line, a "Sith" can be the Dark Lord of the Sith or the Sith apprentice.

Many people pointed out in posts I have seen that in the days of the Sith, especially pre-Darth Bane Rule of Two, "Sith" in general just refers to anyone who is affiliated with a Sith organization, whether that is a "Sith Empire" or something like that. You don't have to be a dark side user or even a Force-user at all to be called a "Sith". You can just be a Sith trooper or officer and be called a "Sith".

Yet somehow, the majority of the fandom, as well as in-universe stories, texts and dialogue from characters in many eras, usually call someone a "Sith" when they are Force-sensitive, use the dark side, and "follow" the Sith teachings and philosophy.

To me, it sounds like in many times when someone is called simply a "Sith", it seems to be a synonym for a "Sith Lord", hence why people like the cultsist on Exegol in Canon are not called "Sith", but "Sith cultists".

This leads me to the next question of this post, in Legends, when did "Sith Order" and "Sith" become the name of the individuals who follow the religion and the religion itself, (I don't know if the Sith are really a "religion" in the tradtional sense or not, but they are close enough).

In Legends, I know everything about the origins of the "Sith" (whatever that may mean, as we will get to later).

Ajunta Pall and the Dark Jedi Exiles that followed him were beaten, exiled from Republic space, found the Sith species people on Korriban, united them under their rule, Ajunta Pall became the first "Dark Lord of the Sith", or "Jen'ari" in Sith language, and his followers became lesser Lords of the Sith, AKA "Jen'jidai" in Sith language. They began creating the "first Sith Empire", and they intermarried with the purebloods for centuries as generations went by, eventually simply being called "Sith", but because of the Sith religion, but because they were literally the Sith species descendants and offspring, just mixed with human blood.

We know Sorzus Syn created the Sith Code, but when did the religion of the "Sith Order" really start/got initiated? This gets complicated because...the Sith already had spiritual, traditional, and cultural beliefs for thousands of years prior to the Dark Jedi Exiles, such as King Adas's Sith Empire during the Rakata reign. Is the "Sith Order" really just the Dark Jedi philosophy and beliefs merged with the preexisting Sith cultural traditions and beliefs?

Regardless, there is this very interesting passage from Book of Sith, were in the very first passage of Sorzus Syn's passage and journals, she says "I am not Sith. I do not share their blood. Yet, in the time since we among those people, we have become their rulers."

So when did the term "Sith" and "Sith Order" began referring to the religion, and it became a creed that any species can adopt and follow? Vitiate's Sith Empire, forged from the remains of the original one from the Great Hyperspace War, began to have human and occasionally alien Sith, yet they are the remade empire of the original one, so this means that being a "Sith" or the "Sith Order" itself are an open religious creed rather than a bloodline.

So why did the term "Sith" and "Sith Lord" began to be used interchangeably and distinguished from a Sith follower/cultist? When did the religion itself, and the naming after the species, start for this religion? If it was not solidified until sometime after Ajunta Pall and the Exiles death, does that mean they were not "Sith", but rather just the ones who started the road down to the religion starting? In other words, were Pall and the others predeccessors instead of the "first Sith"?

Crazy I know, but I'm curious about your theories