r/Hotd • • 23h ago

Show Spoilers Why focus so much on the Hightower Army? Spoiler

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Rhaenyra had Kings Landing but massive Gold problems. Why not take the gold mines of the Lannisters first? That would solve her problems, in addition you could have even contacted the Golden Bank to ask for a credit, even put up something as Colateral if needed.

The Hightower army was basically trapped in Tumbleton with just one tiny dragon.


r/Hotd • • 8h ago

Discussion Why did GRRM write Viserys to be so incompetent? Did GRRM fumble the writing on this character?

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I understand GRRM loves to write flawed characters. But generally a flawed character is one who is faced with tough decisions and may choose decisions that are often bad for them or others.

Moreso, a flawed character isn’t just someone who makes bad mistakes but they have underlying traits or beliefs that drives them to those bad decisions. For example: Ned Stark believes in honor and this causes him to not play dirty politics which leads to his death.

The problem with the writing of Viserys is that his actions are irrational to the point that the plot feels too overly constructed. To the point that GRRM is writing a flaw just to have flaw, and not give any reason.

Viserys went through a succession crisis himself when he was chosen as the heir over Rhaenys (spoiler: in the book it’s Laenor as Rhaenys was excluded from voting.) You would think that someone who saw first hand how the realm was torn into crisis mode and how the realm was very anti-woman-ruler, would want to avoid that same thing as King in the future.

Even in real history, kings have always thought highly of succession and gone through great lengths (marrying multiple wives, King Henry the VIII) to not only secure a male heir, but if needed ensure that their female heir is set up to succeed politically if needed. (King Henry I and his daughter).

Viserys on the other hand chooses to re-marry and produce a male heir but decides to keep a female as his designated heir.

Given what Viserys went through, this character shouldn’t have a belief that Rhaenyra should be his heir. Or be driven to produce competing male heirs.

For GRRM to write not 1 but 2 succession crisis so close together in Targaryen history seems too convoluted and a lack of thought for what characters would be motivated by from past experience.

I think the show tries to patch this up a bit (spoiler if you haven’t read the book) by making up the whole Song of Fire and Ice passed down orally from ruler to ruler, maybe viserys feels only someone with more targaryen blood purity can know the song and that’s why he doesn’t choose Aegon as a successor to hear the song. But this is never talked about in the show or the books

For someone who knows the issues of succession first hand Viserys does nothing to alleviate it and there is no underlying belief given to us by GRRM (aside from, “well Visery would just rather be reading history books than be king,”). I would have liked to see a more thoughtful worldview as to why Viserys would come to this decision.


r/Hotd • • 20h ago

Show Spoilers Why didn't Daemon... Spoiler

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destroy the Hightower Army? The show makes it seemt hat once Rhanerya takes the throne the war is over but Aegon is still out there so is his brother with a big ass dragon and the Hightower Army is massive and has strong funding.

So, why leave them alive? What do you think happens once Aemond shows up? Would they then not fight again?

It jsut doesn't make much sense for me at this point


r/Hotd • • 9h ago

Book Spoilers What is your favorite S4 conspiracy theory? Spoiler

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I call them conspiracy theories cause they’re so far removed from the book but in reality they’re just theories that are all honestly pretty plausible in the show at this point.

380 votes, 2d left
Alicent poisons Aegon
Daemon washes up on the Isle of Faces and becomes one of the Green Men
The whole Winter Wolves plot gets cut
Gwayne marries Rhaena
Daeron fakes his death and lives as a Hightower

r/Hotd • • 19h ago

Meme Omg: https://youtube.com/shorts/vRcwMqSu15A?si=EXmGxQiUzLkgLlwB

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I don't know how to put it so that videos show up on the subs front page, but:

https://youtube.com/shorts/vRcwMqSu15A?si=EXmGxQiUzLkgLlwB

This guy has been playing the Night's Watch to strangers ... and guess who shows up?


r/Hotd • • 19h ago

Book Spoilers My Prediction for Daeron and Gwayne in S4 Based On Condal’s Comments Spoiler

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r/Hotd • • 10h ago

Question If you were to adapt the story of a minor or forgotten Westerosi character to the small screen, who would you choose?

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The lore of Westeros is so rich that there are hundreds of obscure corners and fascinating characters whose lives could easily inspire a standalone masterpiece.
Personally, I’d give anything for a series about:

From the House of the Dragon (HOTD) era:

- Sharako Lohar: An exotic and charismatic figure from the Stepstones (Tyrosh), whose ambition, naval dominance, and role in the Dance of the Dragons would set the stage for a nautical and political adventure completely distinct from what we usually see in King's Landing.

- Alys Rivers: The "Witch of Harrenhal," a character shrouded in dark and dangerous mysticism, with prophetic visions and a towering presence during the darkest moments of the Targaryen civil war.

- Ormund Hightower: The leader of Oldtown's army. His role mobilizing the military power of the Faith and the Reach, dealing with dragons, and commanding the Green forces holds massive potential for an epic war-driven series.

From the Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire(GOT) era:

- Howland Reed: His time at the Tourney at Harrenhal, the enigmatic powers of the crannogmen, his undying loyalty to Ned Stark, and what truly transpired at the Tower of Joy. It would be pure magic and mystery.

- Jon Connington: A deeply tragic story about his devotion to Rhaegar Targaryen, the crushing weight of his exile in Essos, his time with the Golden Company, and his desperate race against time (and greyscale) to restore the dynasty alongside Aegon.

- Brienne of Tarth: Although we saw her in the main show, a miniseries strictly focused on her years as a hedge knight, her solitary journey through the Riverlands searching for the Stark girls, and the raw reality of her quest for honor in a cynical world would make for an incredible swashbuckling drama.