This is my fourth time taking it, FOURTH!

I canceled my first score (146), then got a 147, then a 144. Been studying since May…

I don’t even know how I can explain these miscalculation to law schools. I’m worried about this exam, the RC kicked my butt and I’m terrified of doing even worse. This exam has been bothering me almost 1.5 years. But I also don’t want to give up on my dreams of being a lawyer 😢

Anyone been in this situation or feeling the same?

Hey, I’m PTing in the low 170s, so it’s not often that I misidentify a conclusion but this question tripped me up because I got the argument parts wrong. When none of the answers made sense, I should’ve figured that my reading of the stimulus was wrong but any tips for avoiding these issues? It’s crazy because I find that of the small misses I do have, most are the level 2s that should be the easier questions… feels like I’m losing simple points.

The yellow highlighting represents what I thought was the conclusion and the green represents premises. And yes I highlight on the test because timing isn’t an issue for me and it’s the only way I can keep track of the argument parts, so I will not stop highlighting.

This is PT152. S4. Q13. Thanks!

I am stuck. After a year of studying, I take the LSAT for the last time in November. Please, any tips will be appreciated. Ive tried everything. I am starting to think this is the best I can do.

So I’m thinking about going to law school since I’m a sophomore minoring in pre law and decided to take the LSAT prep test and scored a 132, I know that’s considered to be very low but as someone who hasn’t really taken a law class yet (next semester I’ll be doing 2-3 of them) and didn’t prepare to take this prep test is that a good starting point score or am I just cooked and I shouldn’t even try to actually study and prepare for the LSAT lol, please let me know!

Anyone got tips or tutors to recommend? I absolutely need 160s min this November

I received this email notifying that I have a temporary hold on my LSAT. I’m seeing a lot of posts and comments on here about people waiting for MONTHS. I’m feeling very anxious because this throws off my timeline for retaking the test and my application cycle.

I’m currently registered for the November test because I just wasn’t sure how I’d do in October, so my plan was to either continue with the November test or withdraw by the 11/11 deadline depending on this test, but now I’m worried I won’t get my score back in time to make a decision about the Nov. test. (My Oct. test also took like 7 hours start to finish, which was absolutely brutal so id prefer to avoid taking Nov. if possible)

I’m also a non-traditional/potentially splitter candidate, and I was really counting on the edge of applying earlier.

Some context about my tests:
- took in August in-person, no accommodations (scored 161)
- took in October remote with accommodations: extra time, stop/start breaks, permission to speak aloud, unlimited scratch paper.
- PTs were in 170s leading up to Oct.

Well I mean…. I can’t say I’m very surprised that my test was flagged considering how extensive my accommodations were. The majority of my studying was also done after my Aug. test (I took it w/out much studying as kind of a practice experience) so I was also anticipating a large score increase, which I think can also get flagged. I just didn’t know that LSAC did holds that would last past the score release date. Oh and btw, I didn’t cheat obviously. It would honestly have been very difficult to cheat even if I had wanted to because the security of the remote testing was so intense (hence why my test session was so long). I’m just hoping that that’s obvious from my testing video and I’ll get cleared quickly. :(

This ended up being a very long post but I guess I’m posting for some reassurance? Or at least solidarity from other testers who are in a similar situation as me.and is there anything I can do to expedite this process?

LSAC FAQ page on their recent announcement: https://www.lsac.org/lsat-will-look-little-different-starting-august-2027

Maybe I'm too critical, but this feels so sloppy lol. Beyond the tacky, potentially AI-inserted emojis, there's also "score" questions.

When does exam scheduling open for Nov/ where do I found out?

The Nov lsat being 15 ish days away, does anyone have any last minute tips to increase score.

I know this is extremely ambitious and psychotic for a lack of better words, but I’m currently in the low 150s and I want to be around like 160s, preferably mid 160s.

Literally whatever - anything - studying 24 hours a day - whatever advise somebody has, I will take it all.

Hello!

I received an October score hold email with the text pasted below. What could this mean? I was hoping to apply in November, but I’m worried it could be on hold for months. I tested in person and I can’t think of any anomalies. I’m just confused!!!

Email text:

We are writing to let you know that your recent LSAT session is currently being reviewed, along with others, for an incident that was recorded during the administration of the test. Please be assured that your session is intact and your test answers have been recorded properly.

Most reviews are completed within a few days of score release, but some may require a more comprehensive review. We are working diligently to complete the review as quickly as possible. If you have not received your score within 21 days of score release, you may reach out to TestSecurity@LSAC.org for more information.

So this person just posted her October test results...did some ppl get them early? I thought we had to wait until Wed?

I was looking at this chart on 7sage, and it seems that for the most recent PTs, the curve is more often an -8 than a -7. Does this mean the test is more likely to have a -8 curve? I think the Oct LRs that I had were very challenging compared to some of these PTs. Just curious as I cope for score release day

Hello! I am stuck at around -2 LR and -4 RC and would love to hear about the best way to review incorrect RC questions.

My approach is to redo the question I got incorrect (which I get right 90% of the time the second time around), look at the wrong answer and think something along the lines of, this is wrong because the passage didn't say that, and I went wrong because I didn't read carefully. Then I look at the correct answer and say this is correct because the passage says so in x paragraph.

When I review LR, I am much more thorough in understanding exactly why my wrong answer is wrong, why I picked it, and why the correct answer is correct.

It's not that I'm rushing through RC review, it's just that I will quickly get through it and be like, okay, I understand now, so I'm done here lol.

What are some things to think through when reviewing RC? Are there any questions you ask yourself? How can I be more thorough and get my accuracy up? Was there anything in your reviewing process that led to a breakthrough?

Saw some comments saying you will be worse off by focusing on accuracy. you won't. Let me explain: let's say you get 100% accuracy on the first 25 questions in LR. Your score range is potentially 18-25/25. 18 and 25 are both highly implausible in this scenario. Let's say you answer 32 questions, and only get 25 right. Your score will still range from 18-25/25. Again, 18 and 25 are also highly implausible. Maybe in some formats finishing quickly will be an advantage, and in others it won't. So I would say that focusing on accuracy is still a reasonable goal, and a really good way to do the LSAT despite the new format.

I've always thought about the experimental section as a way to "test" new LSAT questions before administering them in real exams. In the past, these experimental questions were quarantined, so to speak, in an experimental section. Now that they are embedded with real questions I was wondering what the impact would be if/when LSAC includes a bad question or two. Now that they are no longer isolated, couldn't a test taker conceivably spend too much time wrangling with an experimental question (or passage for RC) because it was poorly designed? This would tradeoff with attention for scored questions. LSAT questions are not answered in a vacuum on the real test---some people flag questions, allocate time based on perceived difficulty, and engage in various other test-taking strategies that are created by the context of having a section and don't apply as much to a isolated series of individual questions.

Presumably there are bound to be some experimental questions that never get used again because of some issue---if there were no such cases, the utility for the experimental in the first place seems limited. And would LSAC calculate how much time they expect test takers to spend on experimental questions/passages? If so, how given that they are being tested in real sections? And would people get the same "experimental" questions? If not, how would LSAC "standardize" these sections filled with varied experimental stuff? Would it be fair if someone got a section with experimental questions that perform well enough to be used officially while another person got 2-3 questions that didn't?

LSAC probably does some testing before even releasing experimental content, but surely it can't be comprehensive or as accurate as testing them in real-time. After all, why have the experimental to begin with if you didn't need to experiment?

EDIT: Commented some interesting info about what "pretesting" (experimental stuff) is used to prove. There's clearly a process before questions are pretested, but I think there's still risks.

Hello,

I’m a first year uni student and really interested in going into law.
However, I live in canada where the LSAT floor is really high, the school I want to go to needs a 165 LSAT. I haven’t studied for it yet but my diagnostic was around 150.

The issue is this was the old format. Apparently according to people here the new format is much harder and will grade deflate. Getting to 165 with the old format was already gonna be brutally hard, and now that they’re deflating scores I doubt I will hit it.
Should I switch majors and stop doing pre law because of the new testing format? How much harder is it.

It doesn’t help that since i have adhd with accomodations the already long sections would be longer. I mean 78 minutes of RC wtf??

It just feels so upsetting because i planned my degree for law school and now because of the testing format change i have to switch degrees despite not having pre reqs which will delay my graduation by like 2 years. I hate LSAC so much.

Hi everybody! I know this myth is frustrating, and many people ask the same question over and over again, but I would love to hear some words of advice because I’m so nervous for score release, and the wait has been so brutal for me. My best LSAT score is a 161 from June, and since then, I’ve been testing in the mid-170s before taking the October LSAT. I’m starting to believe the score hold rumors, and I fear that I’m just going to be disappointed again due to my bad test anxiety. Is it normal for in-person scores not to be held with an increase of 10 or so points?

I had technical difficulties in my October exam and I’m worried it was flagged and I have to retake or my score will be held for longer when I plan to apply as soon as I get my score

Affirmations needed!! I felt really good leaving and need hopecore stories of people who left feeling really good and calm also getting good scores that reflect that feeling!!!

My test date was 19th oct

Just did my first cold diagnostic got a 142. Shooting for mid 60’s taking the June test is this obtainable?

So, I’ve been doing untimed drills to try and break through my plateau into the 160s and am having diminishing returns. There are a few problem types I’ve been having issues with… (Conditional reasoning, parallel (half the time it seems easy, but I think I just need to get more acclimated to thinking in abstract terms), causal reasoning, link assumptions)

Specifically I’ve noticed I have issues with finding the assumption the author is making, statistic problems have been a weak area for me as well, but the main thing I’ve had a problem with is pre phrasing the assumption the author is making. (Any tips on that would be helpful)

Should I try and do targeted drilling, go back and review foundational LR in 7sage, or continue to do untimed random drilling? Also should I be diagramming for practice, or should I take more time to figure it out mentally to get used to it. — I’ve been trying to work on areas I struggle with to force myself to learn through
drilling, but I feel like I’m just beating a dead horse.

Side note- At work I try to go through foundational material during downtimes (I feel like drilling is not ideal because I’ll get distracted and miss questions because I’m not focused). I’ve also been casually going through the loophole.

By argument, I mean information made up of evidence (premises) leading to a conclusion.

I cannot adequately express the importance of reading arguments with this mental framework:

WHY is the conclusion true? Because the evidence is true.

Put another way:

This conclusion true. WHY? Because the intermediate conclusion is true. WHY is the intermediate conclusion true? Because the evidence is true.

Note that most arguments do not feature an intermediate conclusion.

Reading arguments in this way does two things. First, it confirms that the conclusion has been properly identified. In fact, this goes to the very definition of the meaning of a conclusion: Information supported by evidence. In other words, evidence answers WHY a conclusion is true.

More importantly though, asking WHY is the best way to identify the assumption, the flaw, the gap, or whatever you want to call it. It takes practice though. Not with new material at this point though. Use previously answered questions until you’re comfortable with the process.

Specifically, ask WHY the conclusion is true and identify any and all information that purportedly answers this question. “Purportedly” because most arguments are initially invalid.

Most of the time, one or two pieces of evidence will answer WHY the conclusion is true. Three pieces of evidence is rare, but can happen. So when looking at previously answered questions, make sure to identify any and all information that supports the conclusion.

Keep in mind that background/contextual information is relevant, even though it doesn’t answer WHY the conclusion is true. 

If necessary, practice by saying the process out loud, but do NOT change any of the wording of the argument, which should be looked at as the law. With enough practice, it becomes clear that the evidence provided in the argument is simply not enough to demonstrate the truth of the conclusion. 

In other words, it becomes easier to see the assumption, the flaw, etc. But again, it does take practice. 

Happy to answer any questions.