r/PakCricket • u/lbh02 • 21h ago
Garam Takes Why doesn't Babar save the team from collapses?
Is a stupid and short sighted argument which can easily and logically be answered if you spend 2 minutes thinking about it. And yes I'm using Babar as clickbait, sue me. This entire discussion applies pretty decently to any #3 batter in ODIs.
Point 1: what collapse is there for him to step in and save? He opens in t20s, bats at 3 in ODIs, and bats at 4 but sometimes 3 in tests. If he's in early, that's not a collapse, that's 1 early wicket. Nobody would demand Fakhar to save a team from collapses because he literally cannot enter in the midst of a collapse. The same applies to a #3
Point 2: basic math. If there is a collapse of 3,4,5 wickets then the chances of him being the guy to remain and bat through are small anyways (1 in 3, 1 in 4, 1 in 5). Of course seeing as he's the main batter those odds should be higher but the point is the very nature of the situation gives him small odds to begin with.
Point 3: if your #3 batter is batting well, there probably isn't a collapse to begin with. I feel like this should be self explanatory, he's batting with the openers or the #4 majority of the time who are just less prone to collapse.
The above 3 points apply to any #3 batters in general. The next 2 are more Babar specific.
Point 4: the collapse often starts the moment he gets out. That is objectively not an indictment on him. Note that I'm NOT referring to games like yesterdays match where he was the 3rd guy out in a collapse. There are so many of these examples I can't even count but 1st ODI vs RSA 2021 is a prime example, as well as Pakistan vs NZ 1st ODI 2025.
Point 5: despite everything I outlined showing why this specific situation is exceedingly rare, he still has several innings where he's done this but there's always a complaint about his innings or how he goes about it. I'll give a couple examples here:
Pak v Zim 2020. I can already smell people making the zimbabar jokes but whatever. Look at the scorecard here. Absolutely 0 support for the first 20 overs. Babar makes 125 and is the 9th man out. We lose in the super over.
Pak vs WI 2026. The entire team collapsed around him in the 4th innings. Babar gets shit here rightfully for exposing the tail enders but at one point Pakistan are 64/7 with Babar on 36 and the 7 dismissed batters combined making 22 runs.
Pak vs SL 2017 101/6 in 27 overs, Babar is on 43* st that point and bats through till the final over, is eventually the 7th man out for over 100.
Pak vs RSA 2021 Pakistan is 206/1 with Babar on 34. 11 overs layer they've lost 5 for 51 and Babars made 29 of those runs. He hits 36 runs in the last 3 overs and gets out of the last ball.
Pak vs Aus 2026 wouldn't really call this navigating a collapse but on a completely shit pitch where chasing even 160 wasn't easy he stuck around for the most part and made 40