r/investing • • 11h ago

In China, the AI bubble has already burst

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The meltdown, tanking the mainland STAR50 index of AI and semiconductor leaders by 40% in less than four months and vaporising some $480 billion in market value, is an ill omen for wobbly world markets and a dampener on China's efforts at encouraging its savers into stocks to fund the AI boom.

https://live.euronext.com/en/financial-news/analysis-china-ai-bubble-has-already-burst


r/investing • • 10h ago

SpaceX end of year employee share release

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Curious how people feel this will impact the stock, or if it’s already priced in? When the shares become available for them to sell, will we see a drop? Trying to figure out what relative bottom will be and curious how this typically goes for recent ipo’s when the shares are unlocked? Thanks for any insight and thoughts


r/investing • • 18h ago

Any last minute thoughts about changing investment profile or even partially cashing out, in anticipation of what could come out of November elections (reactions more than actual results)?

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While the AI bomb is ticking more rapidly, lately, the November elections mechanism, process and results may lead, in my opinion, to even more negative results, concerning social and financial/investment aspects alike. I'm thinking about some last minute (this week) actions to maybe safeguard some larger than usual amount in cash (2 - 3 years worth of COL) and maybe even other moves in what I presently hold.

Any thoughts?


r/investing • • 14h ago

The frontier AI labs will capture a huge cybersecurity market share

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I dont see a lot of people talking about this, but it is obvious if you think about it that OpenAI and Anthropic, with their recent vulnerability discoveries will eventually create massively powerful and likely profitable cybersecurity products that dwarf the capabilities of the traditional big players in the space. Right now, their internal agents are discovering decades old RCE vulnerabilities affecting a huge part of the web. What do they do? They contact other cybersecurity companies in backdoor channels to implement fixes. But why would this be how they continue to operate? It’s clear they have capabilities others dont and they could charge a large premium for cybersecurity services eventually. I have not seen anyone give weight to this in their thesis regarding these companies anywhere.

Am I incorrect?


r/investing • • 5h ago

I love Anthropic's products, BUT I think their S1 is a far scarier than people let on.

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Before I get into my analysis, let me just say that I use Claude every day and really like Anthropic's products. But I think they are making a pretty large error with their IPO, trying to slide some things by without you noticing.

When you only look at the top 25 pages of the S-1, everything pretty much looks pretty good: Revenues up from $1.16B in H1 2025 to $16.3B in H1 2026. Q2 2026 GAAP operating profit was $1.03B. They have $131.7B in cash and near-cash equivalents. But if you look at the accounting mechanics, the accounting treatments, the working capital loops, and particularly footnote 9, you start to see that the structure of Anthropic is poised to be that of a high margin software company, while the balance sheet looks more like a highly leveraged utility. This is 100% GAAP-compliant, audited accounting and not considered illegal.

Here are some red flags I found:

Training costs are number uno, there is no gross margin line item anywhere in the S-1. If you open virtually any SaaS S-1 you will see the revenue line, and directly below that COGs or Gross Profit line, then operating expenses. Anthropic has chosen to remove the gross margin line. They have taken their cost of goods sold (customer inference & computing power) and model training cost and put them into a single line aggregate expense called "Compute and infrastructure," which came to $8.95B in H1 2026.

They only have two reasons for doing so:

One either the company has absolutely dreadful marginal profitability per unit provided (not too profitable at the service level) or the multi-billion dollar training campaigns that go on nearly all the time (AI Labs are continuously training the next model; model development doesn't stop) are essential recurring capex rather than optional discretionary R&D spend.

Convertible Notes Subsidy:

So take a look at the bottom of the income statement. There's a large amount of losses in Q2 2026 for changes in the fair value of the convertible notes amounting to $72.4B. Most of the wall street crowd will just brush it off as a non-cash accounting item, as the valuation of notes had gone up by a considerable amount in their last private funding rounds. But if you take a deeper look at those tens of billions of dollars of losses in the form of convertible notes issued by the company between 2023 and 2025 were entirely and soley to cover the enormous training compute costs, which were paid for by the company in the form of cheap equity shares to Google and Amazon (the cloud providers). So I hypothesize that Anthropic is subsidizing their training expense, as part of notes to the Cloud providers Google and Amazon, to shift the Billions of dolllars from top line COGs, into liabilities and R&D. This is 100% GAAP-compliant, audited accounting; it is not illegal, or considered fraud. I'll cover the next part in a second.

Off-Balance Sheet Tsunami:

The $587 billion take-or-pay obligation trap (Footnote 9 of S-1): Total off balance sheet liabilites were up to nearly 6x what they were a year earlier, reaching $587B by the end of Q2 2026

Lets break the numbers down a bit to see where we are:

  • $265.6B in irrevocable minimum fixed purchase agreements (which includes at least $114.5B to Google Cloud through 2033 and $110B to AWS through 2036); around 80% of that is non-discretionary.
  • Uncommeced leases, under ASC 842 the leases can be deferred indefinitely until the date of official occupancy, so this category of leases alone make up about $321.4B of off balance sheet liabilites, even though they represent a real liability to the company.
  • Broadcom 9% debt loop, of that, it contains $161.2B of Broadcom TPU leases which are 5 years out (around 2030,2031) that were funded with $42B 9% loan facility

So how does this like affect the S-1:

Whenever the company uses those loans to make lease payments they are treated as financing activities rather than operating expenses which allows the company to present the cash-flow are relatively clean, presenting the image that Anthropic is profitable or has decent margins. Typically, if you are leasing out infrastructure, it would be a variable cost as most companies do that scales as usage scales, but in Anthropics case they have effectively turned a variable cost into a fixed cost floor that is irrevocable. They have locked themselves into an exponential growth plan without room for any hitches. They are now forced to produce a spike in revenue before 2027-2030 to service the uncommenced leases, take-or-pay commitments, and regular operations.

So now we see the company is using liabilities as a way to shift expenses but they are doing something weird with revenue too:

Notice the weirdness of the balance sheet: revenues go up steadily, so do their current liabilities, seemingly in lockstep. After I traced the path of the funds, you realize that they are creating a self-looping cycle involving Google/AWS: 48%. of the revenue came through the AWS marketplaces and Google Vertex AI Platform (up from 11% in 2023). Gross vs Net revenue inflation: when a customer pays Anthropic for service via the AWS or Google cloud marketplaces, they are recognizing the full amount as gross revenue (which inflates their sales multiples). The commission paid to the marketplace owner (around 20-27%) is then essentially shifted into the sales and marketing expense line at 19% of all revenue.

Working capital vice effect: 58% of the company's accounts receivable are still in the hands of AWS/Google. The other side of it is that current liabilities and accruals have risen so dramatically that they owe a massive amount to their marketplace owners. They are borrowing picks and shovels to mine for gold at Amazon/Google, sell the gold back to them via the marketplaces, have Amazone/Google hold on to 58% of the receivables from the customers, and book the 255 net margin from the marketplaces as gross revenue.

My Conclusion:

The point I am trying to convey is the fact that Private investors and hyperscalers have reached maximum asset concentrations. They have entered massive commitments with cloud providers in order to fuel hypergrowth necessary for inflating valuations. And now those same agreements are chaining them to a death-trap treadmill without an exit strategy. Even with unstable public markets and enterprise cutbacks looming, this offering seems more like a desperate liquidity release than a fundraising exercise. And if revenue growth breaks the form needed to service Anthropic's or any large AI startup's liabilities, the broader market is in trouble.

Edit: Tightened up my phrasing around the Convertible Notes section; I am in no way saying Anthropic is doing something illegal or breaking GAAP compliance; I am just highlighting the choices around their accounting practices. And to clarify the mechanics, I understand that compute invoices still hit the compute and infrastructure OpEx and the $72.4B charge is an unrealized equity fair-value mark on notes; my point is that the economic round trip of issuing cheap convertible debt to cloud providers to fund the cash needed for the massive compute bills is a massive hidden cost of capital


r/investing • • 10h ago

Studying finance has shown me that I probably can't beat the market and index funds are likely the better option.

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(Disclaimer: I hold 100% VTSAX in my Roth IRA and taxable brokerage account and have been passive index investing since I was 18)

For one of my college finance projects, we're using StockTrak, where we were given $1 million in fake money to invest while meeting certain trading requirements. We're about two months into the project, and despite all the time I've put into it, I'm sitting just slightly below the S&P 500's return. I've been spending several hours a day reading financial statements, calculating intrinsic values, researching companies, keeping up with financial news, looking for undervalued stocks, and even trying day trading. All that work just to make nearly the same return as buying an index fund and doing nothing.

Obviously, two months isn't enough time to prove I can't beat the market, but it's been a pretty humbling experience. I could've just put the entire $1 million into an S&P 500 index fund on day one (not allowed in the project) and spent the next two months doing literally anything else. Instead, I've spent countless hours analyzing companies, second-guessing my decisions, and stressing over market movements, all for a nearly identical result. And that's without even considering taxes, trading costs, or the possibility that my strategy could underperform by a much larger margin over time.

The funny thing is that studying finance hasn't turned me into some incredibly successful investor making huge returns (like I maybe hoped). If anything, it's made me realize just how difficult it is to consistently outperform the market, even when you put a ridiculous amount of time into it. At this point, I'm starting to appreciate the simplicity of buying low-cost index funds, continuing to invest, and getting on with my life. After all this time studying investments, my biggest takeaway is that I might be better off accepting average market returns instead of spending my life trying to beat them.

TL;DR: Trading individual stocks in a finance project has taught me that I can't beat the market and index funds would've provided me the same return with significantly less stress and time investment.


r/investing • • 7h ago

Partnering with Land Investor

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How do I go about finding an investor for land I have a lead on?

Essentially I was combing the gis for land I want to build on and came across a beautiful cleared lot in a desirable location in Kentucky. I found the owner and messaged them about purchasing a few acres from them and they actually responded that they weren't interested in subdividing but were about to list the property for just over 500k.

I can't afford that but was curious if I could find an investor could I make a deal based on me getting some of the land as the finders fee? Also, where does one find a serious investor?


r/investing • • 52m ago

Anyone have experience with GemAlgo AI trading?

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Recently, my much older neighbor asked me for some advice. He told me he’s been getting nonstop ads for GemAlgo, an AI-powered automated trading service, and wanted to know what I thought about it.

I’ve never used automated trading platforms myself, and I’m naturally skeptical of services advertised this aggressively. I told him I’d ask around online before giving him any advice.

Has anyone here actually used GemAlgo? Is it legitimate, and are its advertised returns realistic? Or is it one of those services where the marketing looks great but the actual results don’t live up to the promises?

Personally, I usually stay away from services like this, and I probably wouldn’t trust them with my own money. However, I don’t want to just tell him “NO” based on my own skepticism without knowing more about it. I figured I’d ask here to get a more educated perspective, especially from anyone who has actual experience with GemAlgo or similar services.


r/investing • • 12h ago

BREAKING: Anthropic publicly files IPO prospectus

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r/investing • • 8h ago

Anthropic will pay up to $120.5B for SpaceX's AI Compute

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These numbers are bonkers... Where the f*** is money even coming from at this point? These contracts are getting signed as if they are in millions, not billions.

Roughly ~$3 billion for rented compute, one company to another.

https://teslanorth.com/2026/10/26/anthropic-s1-spacex-120b-compute/


r/investing • • 10h ago

Microsoft offers voluntary buyouts to 60,000 employees

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r/investing • • 18h ago

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