social-democratic government: What these people are really asking for is socialism/communism.

If you support socialism or communism, you're asking for violence. You're asking for this country to go to war with itself.

The Bolshevik Revolution was real. In 1917, the Bolsheviks seized power in Russia, and the country descended into a bloody civil war. The new government carried out the Red Terror, using mass arrests and executions against political opponents. Here's the historical background on the Russian Revolution:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Russian-Revolution

If you support this idea, have you actually studied what happened? Because this sounds like the same kind of fundamental change that people think will somehow work out differently this time.

And a lot of you are aligned with the No Kings movement. You talk like there are kings running this country, so don't tell me a radical overhaul of our economic system is going to happen without serious resistance. Do you think the people who oppose this are just going to take it lying down? Do you think everyday Americans who disagree with you are going to sit back and accept having their entire economic system changed?

I think this is a naive idea. I don't believe a change this fundamental could happen here without serious conflict, and potentially violence. People need to think about the real-world consequences instead of getting caught up in an idealistic vision of how they think society should work.

There's serious problems in this country, and it's stupid that we have to waste time defending against an idea that could create even bigger ones. People pushing this need to explain how they expect it to work in practice, not just talk about how good it sounds on paper.

And no, not everyone on the left supports this. So to the rational liberals out there, check your own people. This kind of thinking makes you all look bad, and it isn't helping solve the problems we're actually facing.

The historical connection between social democracy, socialism, and communism, these movements have overlapping roots in the socialist and workers' movements of 19th-century Europe. The Russian Social Democratic Labour Party split into Bolshevik and Menshevik factions in 1903. After the Bolsheviks seized power in 1917, they suppressed rival socialist parties and consolidated one-party rule.

Here's more historical background on the relationship between these movements and the Russian Revolution:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118620878.ch9

And for anyone who thinks modern American movements aren't pushing to move beyond capitalism, the Democratic Socialists of America's official program outlines its goals, including public ownership of major corporations and essential industries:

https://program.dsausa.org/

That doesn't mean every supporter of social programs wants communism. But it does show that some movements see these reforms as part of a much larger economic transformation. I think people need to be honest about where they want these ideas to lead and what the consequences could be.

I hear that this is what much of the population is in many countries yet these parties don’t succeed. Even the one rare example of the Danish Social Democrats (conservative on immigration) had their worst ever election result this year and the only sustainable government that could be formed was parties to the left of them and the centrist Moderates, and the parties to the left forced the Danish Social Democrats’ hand in allowing thousands of people to become citizens when the SD didn’t want them to become citizens, in the meantime Danish People’s Party continues to rise in the polls.

BSW couldn’t even get 5% in the last German election.

Ever since Gulf of America debate I have been thinking about this, and increases about those proposals (lastly New Mexico -> New America)
made me draw parallel with my own nation's(Turkey) history and recent history of name changes in Russia due to collapse of Soviet Union

The thing is; those names of the regions-cities-seas etc. change usually after the regime of the countries changing their names changes

What do I mean

Konstantiniyye(Constantinople-Ottomans) --> İstanbul (Turkey) /monarchy to democracy/

Petrograd-St.Petersburg (Monarchist Russia) --> Leningrad (Communist Russia) --> St.Petersburg (Russia today)

My argument is we might be observing change in regime of the US, it might be small but I think there is a chance historians mark Trump's second term as some sort of turning point for whatever changes politics of US gets in future

funny video I found about this subject